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Author:  Beryllin [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Would you call this hate speech?

http://www.thefoxnation.com/racism/2010 ... g-politics

Just curious.

Author:  Müs [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:54 pm ]
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Meh. He's just an idiot.

Author:  Xequecal [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you call this hate speech?

The Tea Partiers are criticizing Obama, who is black. Therefore, they must be racist.

Author:  Monte [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:08 am ]
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What exactly do you feel is hate speech? I do believe the Tea Party movement, in large part, opposes the president not only on the basis of his politics, but on the color of his skin. He is, as the speaker points out, guilty of governing while black.

Talking frankly about racism is not the same thing as racism.

The Tea Party movement is not racist because obama is black. They are racist because Obama's race is clearly an issue of contention for him. By Bery's (and Fox News') definition of racism, the I have a Dream speech would be racist because it talks about white racism in frank and unyielding terms.

When I walked through a Tea Party protest here in San Antonio, the word "nigger" was used a goodly number of times among the participants, in direct relation to the President, and to black people in general. In my first hand experience, Tea Partiers regularly and happily rub elbows with racist extremist groups and organizations like Storm Front.

It is what it is. Pointing it out does not constitute hate speech, unless we are expanding that definition to include any speech that reveals the racism inherent in a given movement.

Author:  Rafael [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:38 am ]
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You do realize that a lot of people who don't believe in original spirit and merits probably joined in based on other motives (racism).

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Now, I don't know what measure the tea party has taken to discount and abstain from involving these individuals, but I would think it would be prudent to do so as not only is racial discrimination not germane to the ideas championed by the tea party (personal freedom), you might make the case they are outright contrary to them.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:07 pm ]
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Well, Monte, since the Tea Party movement is more popular than the Democratic Party right now, are you suggesting that the US, on the whole, is racist?

You're completely out of touch.

Author:  Müs [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:08 pm ]
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I, personally, don't care that he's black. Generally speaking I don't care what color someone is.

But I have no problems calling a douchebag a douchebag.

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