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People seem to think that there are impressionable folks who can have their opinions changed because of stories like this or political commercials, but I don't know of anyone I've ever talked to that would change their mind over something they saw on TV.

I think it's just ignored these days.

And the fact that if there were any video/audio of ANY of the events they would be plastared all over the liberal talk shows and rags.

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

RangerDave wrote:

Elmarnieh wrote:

RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Then you're retarded.

After all, you killed JFK. I don't need proof, it's just partisan wingnuttery for you to claim otherwise.

Dave do you believe in the basic American concept that the bruden of proof should lay on the procescution or not?

Author:	Elmarnieh [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/20 ... liticians/ MEDIA FRAUD– More Proof That the Leftist Media Lied About Racist Attacks On Black Reps While They Ignored Vulgar Attacks By Lib Politicians Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:23 PM Jim Hoft On Saturday the leftist media reported on a horrible story from their sources at the anti-military Jew-hating conservative-hating Huffington Post. The media claimed that members of the Congressional Black Caucus were called n*ggers and spat on by tea party protesters as they walked from the Longworth office building to the Rayburn office building. At least one report said that it was “a chorus” of racist hatred. Reporters from ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX News, (including Bill O’Reilly), MSNBC, etc. reported on this horrible story. Unfortunately, it was a fake. They had no evidence… Nothing. It was totally made up. In fact, a video was later released that proved that there was no “chorus” of racist hatred and no one screamed the n-word. It was all a lie. Now here is more proof. There were several cameras filming the democratic representatives as they walked to the Rayburn Office Building. And, the representatives had at least two cameras filming the entire event. (It was almost as if they were expecting something to happen?) More at link

Author:	Screeling [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:23 pm ]
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Is anybody here surprised?

Author:	Rorinthas [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:38 pm ]
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It's sad this will get burried. I thought the video rewards put out by various organizations was a nice touch though.

Author:	Müs [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:02 pm ]
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Author:	Taskiss [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:06 pm ]
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People seem to think that there are impressionable folks who can have their opinions changed because of stories like this or political commercials, but I don't know of anyone I've ever talked to that would change their mind over something they saw on TV. I think it's just ignored these days.

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Author:	Wwen [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:15 pm ]
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Taskiss wrote: People seem to think that there are impressionable folks who can have their opinions changed because of stories like this or political commercials, but I don't know of anyone I've ever talked to that would change their mind over something they saw on TV. I think it's just ignored these days. Yeah, I think people are just attracted to the news they agree with.

Author:	Nitefox [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:17 pm ]
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/bob-parks/ ... olent-myth

Author:	Rynar [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:03 pm ]
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Taskiss wrote: People seem to think that there are impressionable folks who can have their opinions changed because of stories like this or political commercials, but I don't know of anyone I've ever talked to that would change their mind over something they saw on TV. I think it's just ignored these days. I felt this way until I realized that the people I hang out with are much more intellegent than the average American Idol voter on whom, unfortunatly, this disgusting lie was perpetrated.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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How do you know what the intelligence of the average American Idol voter is?

Author:	Ladas [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:14 pm ]
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I think reasonable deductions can be made based upon the fact they actually watch American Idol...

Author:	RangerDave [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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So, an angry crowd of protestors are shouting at several members of Congress as they walk by, and those Congressmen/women claim someone in the crowd called them niggers. Nothing implausible about that. There's always a couple of *ssholes in any protest crowd. But rather than accept that this may in fact have happened, you guys think a ridiculously biased blog post ("the leftist media...the anti-military Jew-hating conservative-hating Huffington Post...") linking to a couple minutes of video footage someone shot on their cell phone clearly suggests the Congressmen/women were flat out lying? Seriously? Oh, and there is "video evidence" of one of them getting spit on. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/29/trash-talking-mounts-in-t_n_517275.html From the looks of it, it may have just been spittle from someone leaning in and shouting, but it seems clear the Congressman who got hit had no way of knowing that.

Author:	Vindicarre [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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Nah, I'm just going with the fact that there were hundreds (thousands) of video cameras and audio recording devices (many being carried by the Congressmen's entourage) present and no one has come forward with evidence of people calling a Congressman a nigger 15 times as has been claimed; even in order to claim the $100,000 for the United Negro College fund - no evidence. As for the spitting, I'm under the assumption that the police officer right there would have done something had it been true. A Congressman with a police officer at his shoulder would be a prime example of someone who could have someone arrested for assault in such an instance.

Author:	Elmarnieh [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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And the fact that if there were any video/audio of ANY of the events they would be plastared all over the liberal talk shows and rags. RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance?

Author:	Nitefox [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:04 pm ]
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Elmarnieh wrote: And the fact that if there were any video/audio of ANY of the events they would be plastared all over the liberal talk shows and rags. RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? This. If they real footage and audio, every lib zombie out there would be pointng it out and claiming how right they are about the evil conservatives. It's come down to this. The libs can't argue the real points so they make up stuff about the enemy. Rules for Radicals.

Author:	darksiege [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:36 pm ]
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of course RD does not believe that, he has been unapologetically a fanboi and continues to act as a puppet of the liberals can do no wrong movement.

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Author:	RangerDave [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:15 pm ]
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Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it.

Author:	Elmarnieh [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:26 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. Do you also not find it plausible that politicians would wish to insult and deman their political opposition regardless of the truth? Do you also find it plausible that given the serious amount of video and audio recording available that the incident was not recorded. Do you then believe that given the state of our media that such evidence would not be aired if it existed. Thus given that no evidence exists and the ideas for both actions are plausible - what can you reasonably infer?

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:37 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. I believe it's equally plausible that it's partisan wingnuttery that fabricated a racially charged occurrence where there is none. Shouldn't we assume that until there is proof it exist? A charge was made, so, in fact, more evidence suggests the charge was based on fabrication than the charge was based on fact.

Author:	Screeling [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. Dude, how about we even forget conservative pundits/shows? Where's the friggin' evidence on lefty blogs and MSNBC? I'll give you credit for being a fairly well reasoned lefty even if I don't happen to agree with your reasoning. But you're being all kinds of unreasonable on this. One of the biggest issues of the past decade. Cameras EVERYWHERE. Where's the evidence? Is it plausible? Maybe. But even if it is, why does that make it right for the media to report that it did happen when the only thing we have is the say-so of people who have a vested interest in that rumor being true?

Author:	Diamondeye [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:48 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. I could just as easily say that the claim that the congressmen are making this up is completely plausible and its partisan wingnuttery to demand evidence before you'll believe it.

Author:	DFK! [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:54 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. Then you're retarded. After all, you killed JFK. I don't need proof, it's just partisan wingnuttery for you to claim otherwise.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:35 pm ]
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Dave do you believe in the basic American concept that the bruden of proof should lay on the procescution or not?

Author:	Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:14 pm ]
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That seems to be the crux.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:27 am ]
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DFK! wrote: RangerDave wrote: Elmarnieh wrote: RD it seems your stating that the absence of evidence is itself evidence of an occurance? No, I'm saying the claim being made is quite plausible, and I think it's partisan wingnuttery to demand video/audio recordings as proof before you'll believe it. Then you're retarded. After all, you killed JFK. I don't need proof, it's just partisan wingnuttery for you to claim otherwise. Yes, that's completely comparable, and he's the one who's retarded....