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Author:  Beryllin [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:45 am ]
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All I wanted to say.

He is risen!
Author:  Dash [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:46 am ]
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Grats Jesus. Happy re-birthday!
Author:  Beryllin [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:15 am ]
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This is a great article on the subject:

http://townhall.com/columnists/KenConno ... surrection
Author:  Rorinthas [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:45 am ]
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He is risen indeed.
Author:  LadyKate [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:28 am ]
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Beat me to it, Bery! :)

Yes, he is risen! Jesus loves us so much.
Author:  Micheal [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:11 am ]
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Happy Easter everyone.
Author:  darksiege [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:29 pm ]
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happy easter
Author:  Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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Cum rex gloriae Christus infernum debellaturus
Author:  LadyKate [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:00 pm ]
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Um, lo que dijo el....
Author:  Micheal [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:06 pm ]
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to expand on what Vindi had to say,

Cum rex gloriae Christus infernum debellaturus intraret, et chorus angelicus ante faciem ejus protas principum tolli praeciperet, sanctorum populus, qui tenebatur in morte captivus, voce lacrimabili clamabat dicens: Advenisti desiderabilis, quem expectabamus in tenebris, ut educered hac nocte vinculatos de claustris. Te nostra vocabant suspiria, te large requirebant lamenta, tu factus est spes desperatis, magna consolatio in tormentis. Alleluja.

It is a song remembering the resurrection of Jesus Christ, usually sung during the Easter Mass in the Catholic Church, and may have been borrowed by other churches for all I know.

Truly a beautiful piece of choral music.
Author:  Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:34 pm ]
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What you copied/pasted, Micheal, is an antiphon (think Gregorian Chant as a responsorial), and isn't part of the Mass anymore, with the exception of some parts of Germany.
Author:  Kirra [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:16 pm ]
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Hope all had a wonderful Easter day!
Author:  Micheal [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:39 pm ]
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I haven't gone to Easter Mass in close to 30 years, I rarely go to Mass and, due to my dislike of crowds, avoid the high holiday observances. I've heard it before, as part of a High Latin Easter mass, probably at the cathedral in San Jose. Are antiphonals and Gregorian chants not considered choral music, and yes, I don't know that much about the topic. Yes, I copied and pasted the Latin, did you type it from memory Vindicarre?
Author:  Diamondeye [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:33 pm ]
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Happy Easter everyone!
Author:  Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:54 pm ]
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Micheal:

If my understanding is correct, and antiphon is a simple, syllabic, "chant", most often heard in responsorials; while choral music is written specifically for a choir to sing.

The Cum rex gloriae is not a part of Mass even at Easter. It was (centuries ago, again, if my understanding is correct) a part of the night-office, held at Midnight on Easter. It doesn't even mention the Resurrection, as it is symbolic of Christ's victory over hell, and the consolation of the souls therein. As you can see, none of this is conducive toward having a choir on hand.

This is my rough translation of your post:
When Christ, the King of Glory, entered hell about to wage war and the angelic chorus before his countenance advised him to open the gates, the multitude of saints who were held captive in death were crying out with piteous voices:
"You have come, the desired, whom we were awaiting in darkness on this night to extricate the ones in chains from the prison. Our sighs for you were in vain; our laments looked for you in longing; then, the hope of the desperate was an abundant consolation in torment."
Author:  Micheal [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:03 pm ]
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If it was not this, it was something very similar. It was performed during a mass, it was performed by the choir, or at least the sound emanated from the choir. It seemed more choral than chanted, and it was lovely. The voices were singing softly, then louder as the phrase built and finished. I remember (a little) talking about it with friends after the Mass, as we went over the parts of the Mass we weren't familiar with, as we hardly ever attended the Latin Mass. By that point in time Masses were being done in English except for about one each Holy Day.

It was also between 30 and 35 years ago, it was in Latin, and my memory is far from perfect.
Author:  Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:27 pm ]
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Perhaps you're conflating what you read about "Cum Rex gloriae", when you copied it, with your memories of a Latin Mass you attended post Vatican II? I would find it quite surprising that St. Joseph's Basilica held an Easter Mass that included a centuries old rite that takes place in the dead of night in an empty church. Especially since it was a Tridentine rite Mass, there would be no place for it.
Author:  Micheal [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:37 pm ]
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Almost certainly, if you are correct.
Author:  Vindicarre [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:53 pm ]
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Correct about what? Lol, this is foolish; if my posting "Cum rex gloriae Christus infernum debellaturus" reminded you of a Mass you attended 35 years ago, it must have been a pretty powerful moment. Enjoy your memories. Peace.
Author:  Screeling [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:43 am ]
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Watched quite a few kids this weekend raise their hands to give their hearts to Jesus. Was great.
Author:  LadyKate [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:09 am ]
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That's awesome, Scree!
We did "Living Pictures" Fri, Sat, and Sun...its a 2 hour musical performance by our drama team and our choir re-enacting Jesus' teachings, last days, crucifixion, and resurrection....very powerful! I cried at rehearsal, haha!
I was in the choir and got a pretty good view of the thousands of people that came each night. We've heard bits and pieces of stories of people that got saved but we'll hear more Wednesday. One of the guys in choir got his sister to come and that was the first time in 10 years that she has set foot inside a church.
I wish ya'll could have been there...I can't even describe how amazing it was each and every night....God was definitely present. It was awesome. Best Easter in a long time!
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:02 am ]
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Went to service Sat night but the toddler wanted no part of their daycare services. Had to leave about 10 minutes in :(
Author:  TheRiov [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:13 am ]
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Screeling wrote:
Watched quite a few kids this weekend raise their hands to give their hearts to Jesus. Was great.


not to co-opt the thread, but we don't trust children to vote, or even decide their own bedtime or drive vehicles. And children are more informed about the options out there for voting, what time they go to bed, and what cars do--why on earth would we suggest they're capable of deciding their spiritual path at such a young age?
Author:  Screeling [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:44 am ]
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Apparently you disagree that God is capable of touching a child's heart. Some of us don't. I gave my heart to Jesus when I was very young as well. That's only the first step on a life-long journey. Some people obviously give up on the journey before they get half way. I would hope God would do such a work in them that it would be lifelong and unfaltering.
Author:  LadyKate [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:40 am ]
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TheRiov wrote:
-why on earth would we suggest they're capable of deciding their spiritual path at such a young age?


We don't decide, Riov, God does. Matthew 19:14:
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Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
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