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| Author: | Hopwin [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Facebook in the news |
There is something wrong when crap like this gets national media attention: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/21/ ... tml?hpt=T2 Quote: A recently created Facebook page reads, "Dear Lord, this year you took my favorite actor, Patrick Swayzie (sic). You took my favorite actress, Farah (sic) Fawcett. You took my favorite singer, Michael Jackson. I just wanted to let you know, my favorite president is Barack Obama. Amen." This is the 2nd or third story on stupid Facebook groups that I have seen this year. Is it really news-worthy? What is essentially a glorified blog gets front page on CNN... |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
IN YOUR FACEBOOK! |
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| Author: | Khross [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
This stuff wasn't newsworthy when the last guy was President. I guess "prayers" for the death of a white guy are ok if he's not a Democrat. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
Rynar wrote: IN YOUR FACEBOOK! Damn.... |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:37 pm ] |
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It wasn't news enough for CNN et. al. when it was Chris Christie ten days ago... Quote: "Dear lord,' this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays. I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor."
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:30 pm ] |
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Dang Vind beat ne to it |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:54 pm ] |
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The CNN article now mentions Christie and Amadenejihad. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:43 pm ] |
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Vindicarre wrote: It wasn't news enough for CNN et. al. when it was Chris Christie ten days ago... Quote: "Dear lord,' this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays. I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor." Actually, CNN did run this story. It was their front page article for a few hours. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/09/teachers.union.governor/index.html |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:37 pm ] |
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Wow, I missed it, good for them. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:42 pm ] |
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Vindicarre wrote: Wow, I missed it, good for them. I disagree. It's an intentional smoke screen of fair and balanced pseudo news. Bad for them, equally, on both fronts. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:47 am ] |
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That's what you get when you let capitalism be the driver for your news source. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:49 am ] |
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Aizle wrote: That's what you get when you let capitalism be the driver for your news source. Totally 100% incorrect. That's what happens when you let neo-mercantilism or corporatism be the driver. Capitalism is something else. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:02 am ] |
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Bullshit. The news agencies have evolved to be the way they are for one reason and one reason only, they make more money that way. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:08 am ] |
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Aizle wrote: Bullshit. The news agencies have evolved to be the way they are for one reason and one reason only, they make more money that way. Which has nothing at all to do with capitalism. Read, and comprehend, what I said. "Capitalism" has a specifc meaning, just because someone makes money at something does not make it capitalistic. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
Meriam-Webster wrote: Main Entry: cap·i·tal·ism Pronunciation: \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\ Function: noun Date: 1877 : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market The key points in the definition is "competition in a free market". Those are very relevant to why the news media companies that you rail against are the way they are. They are in the business to make money, they happen to do that by presenting "news". When the primary motivator for their existance is profit and not quality journalism, what you get today is the unavoidable result. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
Aizle wrote: Meriam-Webster wrote: Main Entry: cap·i·tal·ism Pronunciation: \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\ Function: noun Date: 1877 : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market The key points in the definition is "competition in a free market". I guess if we were to have a free market and determination by private decision, you would be correct. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:23 am ] |
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I don't understand what you mean there Vind. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:36 am ] |
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Oh, come on Vind. The news is free market. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:33 pm ] |
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Your well reasoned, educated argument has changed my mind! The gov't would never even think of giving billions of dollars to corporations that produce "the news" in exchange for pursuing its initiatives. How could I be so foolish to think that a corporation that runs broadcast and cable news outlets would receive nearly $88 billion dollars in Federally subsidized loans, nah, none of that could ever happen. Man was I ignorant. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:35 pm ] |
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Vindicarre wrote: Your well reasoned, educated argument has changed my mind! The gov't would never even think of giving billions of dollars to corporations that produce "the news" in exchange for pursuing its initiatives. How could I be so foolish to think that a corporation that runs broadcast and cable news outlets would receive nearly $88 billion dollars in Federally subsidized loans, nah, none of that could ever happen. Man was I ignorant. Your sarcastic over-the-top nonsense aside, are you then suggesting that the government is giving money to CNN to talk about facebook? If not, can you explain your reasoning behind the implication that if CNN did not receive government loans (and you haven't shown this) that they would not have run this story? Basically, I'm interested to know why government involvement pushed them into writing this story. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:01 pm ] |
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Yes because giving money most assuredly only meand direct cash contributions and never things such as FCC regulations or fine or approving or not mergers and em spectrum allotments for others. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:14 pm ] |
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Arathain: Rather than creating a straw man argument that you've manufactured whole cloth, why don't you address my direct refutation of your statement? |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Facebook in the news |
And, as correct and Vindi, DFK!, and Elmo are here, they don't even begin to address the fact that these news outlets are only a small arm of huge muliti nationals, all of which have direct ties to massive government contracts: MSNBC is owned by GE, who has nearly 2 trillion dollars in government contracts for wind farm research. CBS is owned by Frank Carlucci of the Carlye Group, which holds Westinghouse Electric and a variety of other energy companies, most of which opperate nuclear power plants here in the US. CNN owns, and holds in public sanctioned monopoly, almost all of the cable TV infrastructure in the United States. These are just a few examples, some off the top of my head, which demonstarate exactly how tied these organizations are to big government and big spending. The level of corruption is absurd, and the legislation is written by the industry experts (read lobbiests) in ways which benifit the industries themselves by garenteeing market share, and having tax payer subsidised bottom lines. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:53 pm ] |
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Oh, come on Rynar. The news is free market. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:57 pm ] |
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Elmarnieh wrote: Yes because giving money most assuredly only meand direct cash contributions and never things such as FCC regulations or fine or approving or not mergers and em spectrum allotments for others. Is this a sarcastic statement? I can't tell, it's kind of poorly written. |
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