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Author:  Hopwin [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:24 pm ]
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http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/loca ... 11719.html

Quote:
President Barack Obama has denied aid to individuals affected by March’s massive storms and Gov. M. Jodi Rell said she plans to file a formal appeal.

The decision comes just days after Obama approved the state’s request for a “major disaster declaration,” which provides financial help to state and municipal governments in Fairfield, Middlesex and New London counties.

Storms plagues the state, especially these counties from March 12 to 14 and from March 29 to 31.

Rell was looking for help for homeowners, renters and employers.

“The storms that battered our state last month left a trail of astonishing devastation in their wake – crushed cars, homes struck by trees, week-long power outages and staggering flooding,” Rell said. “People and businesses all across Connecticut were left with millions of dollars in damage. They need help.

Rell called the decision “disappointing” and has started gathering information to file a formal appeal.

“I have directed our state emergency management officials to immediately gather whatever information may be needed to further support our application for assistance. I will also work with our Congressional delegation and with the Federal Emergency Management Agency to continue pursuing this matter until all avenues for aid are exhausted,” she said.

A survey was conducted that identified 1,315 homes in the five counties with damages totaling $5,262,100 in estimated housing assistance needs and “other needs assistance.” Rell's broader request also looked for help for Fairfield, Middlesex and New London counties, as well as New Haven and Windham counties.

The Small Business Administration determined that 116 businesses were affected and estimated the damages at $5,359,250.


Where's Kanye on this one????

Versus:
http://uspoverty.change.org/blog/view/b ... e_was_slow

Author:  Ladas [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:28 pm ]
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Federal aid shouldn't be given anyway... this is up to the private property owners, not the national taxpayers, to protect their investments.

Author:  Hopwin [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:29 pm ]
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Obviously, but that isn't the point I was trying to make is it?

Author:  Ladas [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:44 pm ]
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Well, honestly, you gave this thread a title that your first link doesn't even attempt to suggest. One could infer that the racial make up of those area is predominately white, given the state, but wouldn't be equally valid to infer this is another example of rich versus poor and not necessarily race?

Those communities don't need/warrant federal funds because they can afford to rebuild themselves, unlike the disadvantaged and marginalized residents of NO.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:12 pm ]
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I'm pretty stunned at that Ladas. The people who earned the money that they then paid in taxes to the Federal Government don't warrant aid from the Federal Government in a crisis .

I guess that pretty much sums up the differences in our mindsets.

Author:  Müs [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:13 pm ]
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President Obama doesn't care about white people.

Author:  Ladas [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:24 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote:
I'm pretty stunned at that Ladas. The people who earned the money that they then paid in taxes to the Federal Government don't warrant aid from the Federal Government in a crisis .

I guess that pretty much sums up the differences in our mindsets.

Which is odd, because I would have assumed, based on your posting history, that you have a similiar mindset... the federal government shouldn't be providing aid like this to anyone. Perhaps you thought I was arguing just the poor in NO deserve the help, but not the rich? If so, I don't think anyone deserves it.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:30 pm ]
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Yeah, I did think that was what you were arguing, hence my "stunnedness"; thanks for the clarification. Were back on the same page.

Author:  Rynar [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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Ladas wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
I'm pretty stunned at that Ladas. The people who earned the money that they then paid in taxes to the Federal Government don't warrant aid from the Federal Government in a crisis .

I guess that pretty much sums up the differences in our mindsets.

Which is odd, because I would have assumed, based on your posting history, that you have a similiar mindset... the federal government shouldn't be providing aid like this to anyone. Perhaps you thought I was arguing just the poor in NO deserve the help, but not the rich? If so, I don't think anyone deserves it.


And we shouldn't be taxed to pay for it either. But we are, and so when it's our time to receive that aid, for which those tax dollars were taken from us, and we are denied when we ourselves are in that time of crisis, it becomes apparent that the taxes we paid into the guise of aid was actually just another mechanism for wealth redistribution. It is no different than if the social security program was revamped such that it only payed out to the disadvantaged after promising benefits to everyone who payed in.

Author:  Ladas [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:30 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote:
Yeah, I did think that was what you were arguing, hence my "stunnedness"; thanks for the clarification. Were back on the same page.

The last sentence in my post should have had quotes or something around it... It was not my opinion, but written as a characterization of the position those with more liberal ideals would posit. I wasn't very clear there and should apologize for the confusion.

Author:  darksiege [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:15 pm ]
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Rynar wrote:
And we shouldn't be taxed to pay for it either. But we are, and so when it's our time to receive that aid, for which those tax dollars were taken from us, and we are denied when we ourselves are in that time of crisis, it becomes apparent that the taxes we paid into the guise of aid was actually just another mechanism for wealth redistribution. It is no different than if the social security program was revamped such that it only payed out to the disadvantaged after promising benefits to everyone who payed in.


This; 100% this. If you can be denied aid, you should have the option of opting out of paying in for the aid of others. It should be done through charity and not forced through taxes.

Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:05 pm ]
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But taxes ARE charity darksiege.

Author:  darksiege [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:09 pm ]
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yeah... well if that is the case my balls are a charitable organization; but I do not see the government doing anything to provide relief to those.

Author:  Lydiaa [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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tax is only charity if used on people rather than infrastructure

Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:43 pm ]
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Lydiaa wrote:
tax is only charity if used on people rather than infrastructure



This is also joke, yes?

Author:  Lydiaa [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:33 am ]
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no it was omg Ds is blocking my achievement.. quick type something...

reading back... it probably was not very thought out or went through the brain at all =P

Author:  darksiege [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:23 am ]
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well even if I was cockblocking the achievement... my balls are still a charitable organization, and the government is not using them for infrastructure either.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:47 am ]
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darksiege wrote:
well even if I was cockblocking the achievement... my balls are still a charitable organization, and the government is not using them for infrastructure either.


Stop paying your taxes. The IRS will use them as a sidewalk.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:50 pm ]
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Lol

Author:  Müs [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:29 pm ]
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Jesus!

((I can't believe noone's gone there yet.))

Author:  FarSky [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:15 pm ]
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Wow, yeah. I started to, but assumed without clicking on the thread that it would be response #2 or #3.

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