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Author:  Dash [ Fri May 14, 2010 10:09 pm ]
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Yeah I know: "who?"

Nutshell, Lars Vilks is a Swedish artist that made some controversial images of the prophet Mohammad and thereby pissed off a number of individuals. The video below shows him at a screening of an even more controversial film that well, look the guy is into pissing off people who worship Mohammad.

He is assaulted by angry Muslims shouting Allahu akbar and the end result is that the film screening is canceled and further visits to this university by Vilks has been revoked. Below is 10 minutes of what happened before during and after.


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Author:  Wwen [ Fri May 14, 2010 11:04 pm ]
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It looked like a dumb film anyway.
Author:  darksiege [ Sat May 15, 2010 12:46 am ]
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funny.. they purposely go to an event from someone who has a record of doing this blasphemous to muslims...

They were trying to start trouble.

Religion of peace my ***.
Author:  Wwen [ Sat May 15, 2010 12:52 am ]
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Piece, like, "let me show you my piece."
Author:  Dash [ Sat May 15, 2010 9:43 am ]
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They got what they wanted though. Message sent. Why would they stop going to places that offend them and use violence if it works so well? For good measure they've attacked his home too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01524.html

Quote:
STOCKHOLM -- The home of a Swedish artist who once drew a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad as a dog has been hit by a suspected arson attack, police said Saturday.

Lars Vilks, who lives in Nyhamnslage in southern Sweden, was not at home during the attack late Friday night and no one was reported injured.


If this were in NYC I'm sure Bloomberg would be blaming people mad about the Heathcare bill and admonish people not to jump to conclusions or be racisty.
Author:  Müs [ Sat May 15, 2010 6:10 pm ]
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What a bunch of **** douchebags.

DS said it already... Religion of peace, my ***.
Author:  Rafael [ Sun May 16, 2010 2:10 pm ]
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"If you had stopped the film, none of this would have happened".

**** disgusting. Basically, if you do what we want, we won't have to use violence to get what we want.
Author:  Lenas [ Sun May 16, 2010 3:34 pm ]
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Neanderthals.
Author:  Rynar [ Sun May 16, 2010 5:19 pm ]
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Muslim cultural norms, and the ideas and philosophies that spring from it, are quickly becoming unwelcome at the table where valid ideas are discussed.
Author:  Jasmy [ Sun May 16, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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Rynar wrote:
Muslim cultural norms, and the ideas and philosophies that spring from it, are quickly becoming unwelcome at the table where valid ideas are discussed.


Not quickly enough it seems!
Author:  Khross [ Mon May 17, 2010 7:25 am ]
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You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Author:  Müs [ Mon May 17, 2010 8:41 am ]
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Khross wrote:
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.


We should? Why?
Author:  Aizle [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:51 am ]
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Müs wrote:
DS said it already... Religion of peace, my ***.


Do you judge Christianity by Fred Phelps too?
Author:  Müs [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:06 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
Müs wrote:
DS said it already... Religion of peace, my ***.


Do you judge Christianity by Fred Phelps too?


No, because I don't see Phelps as a Christian. I see him as a hate filled meatbag waste of oxygen.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:21 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
Müs wrote:
DS said it already... Religion of peace, my ***.


Do you judge Christianity by Fred Phelps too?


In case you hadn't noticed, Fred Phelps and his one little group of nitwits, is exactly that: one little group. This is just a bunch of unorganized muslims, not a group. Not only that, but you can find muslims having protests and making threats all over the world any time something like this happens, or sometimes just for the sheer hell of it

BBC

A year later

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No, quite frankly the fact that Fred Phelps has to be personally referenced every time Muslims start this crap as if his mere existance somehow equalizes everything is a tacit admission that Islam is a lot more aggressive and hostile than.. pretty much any other religion.

Not only do we not see this prevalence of angry, hostile, and sometimes violent protst from Christianity, we don't see it from Bhuddists, Hindus, Taoists, Shintoists, Jews, or anyone else.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:14 am ]
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Uh huh.

I'm sure I could go find all sorts of hateful pictures coming from Christians as well. Phelps is the poster child for that kind of hateful crap, but he's certainly not the only source.

I do agree that his ilk are a minority of Christians. However, it's equally true that the extremist muslims are a minority as well.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:18 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
Uh huh.

I'm sure I could go find all sorts of hateful pictures coming from Christians as well. Phelps is the poster child for that kind of hateful crap, but he's certainly not the only source.

I do agree that his ilk are a minority of Christians. However, it's equally true that the extremist muslims are a minority as well.


These are not extremist muslims. Extremists are the ones that actually go blow themselves up or otherwise participate in violent organizations. These are the ones that support them.

If they didn't support them, the sort of ongoing violence that happens in places like Afghanistan and Iraq would not be able to happen. Violent extremists need the population's support to hide and supply them.

As for Christians acting "hateful", you might or might not be able to find "all sorts" of pictures, but you would be hard-pressed to find calls for violence, even from Phelps. Opinions you find hateful are not on the same level as actual calls for beheading people.
Author:  Khross [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:27 am ]
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It's nice to know that the Western propaganda machine has you so convinced, Diamondeye. I'm actually appalled that you continue with this line of thinking.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:06 pm ]
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Khross wrote:
It's nice to know that the Western propaganda machine has you so convinced, Diamondeye. I'm actually appalled that you continue with this line of thinking.


You can be appalled all you want Khross. Propaganda, Western or otherwise. has nothing to do with it. If we were to believe "Western Propaganda" we'd believe quite the opposite in our haste not to offend anyone.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:09 pm ]
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I can find similar behavior on campuses of American liberals yelling down and cursing and threatening violence to conservative speakers.

Therefore we can conclude that Americans are all classless people who don't care about free speech, and threaten violence to those who differ in view for them.

Or is it liberals?

Or is it college students?

Or is it people from around (insert area around the University)?

Or whites?

Or blacks?
Author:  Khross [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:10 pm ]
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Diamondeye:

No, we actually wouldn't. There are 1.66 billion Muslims in the world. The simple truth is that those who are violent or support violence are a minority.
Author:  Dash [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:13 pm ]
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I'll do you one better, Khross I am apoplectic that you are appalled. Its sad to see the South Eastern propaganda machine has gotten to you so thoroughly. You should be ashamed of yourself.

As far as the religion of peace thing, if you want to get nuanced in your terminology to distinguish between the rank and file follower of Islam and the "Allahu akbar" and underwear bomber types in some way I'd agree with that.

I'd also agree that the number of people who support, condone or "understand" such attacks is not small. I'd guess the number of people who arent mad at what was done to Vilks is even higher.
Author:  Khross [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:15 pm ]
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Dashel:

It has nothing to do with propaganda and everything to do with simple numbers. Muslims account for nearly 25% of the world's population.
Author:  Ienan [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:17 pm ]
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Khross wrote:
Diamondeye:

No, we actually wouldn't. There are 1.66 billion Muslims in the world. The simple truth is that those who are violent or support violence are a minority.

Simple truth? Care to back that up with facts or is that just a baseless assertion that you've called others on?

As for the numbers, I have no clue if radical or even overly conservative Islamists are the minority or majority. I couldn't even tell you that of any other religion, though I'd feel safest with Buddhism that it is not. I don't have any data to back that up. Why are we so quick to assume this level of extremism is a minority instead of confronting head on and determine if it really is?
Author:  Aizle [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:21 pm ]
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Ienan wrote:
Why are we so quick to assume this level of extremism is a minority instead of confronting head on and determine if it really is?


It's simple math.

If 1.66 BILLION people were out protesting and suggesting the killing of anyone who insults Islam, you'd know. It's a tiny, tiny fraction of that number. Even if it were a million people protesting, you'd be a 1/10 of a percent.
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