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Author: | RangerDave [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Gallup recently released the results of a poll that probed Americans' opinions on the morality of certain behaviors. How do your own views compare? (I've spoilered the actual poll results, so people can answer before seeing what Gallup found.) Doctor assisted suicide: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Abortion: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Gambling: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? The death penalty: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Divorce: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Suicide: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Cloning humans: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Married men and women having an affair: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? Spoiler: |
Author: | RangerDave [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
My answers are: Doctor assisted suicide: Morally Acceptable (assuming incurable illness) Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Acceptable Abortion: Morally Acceptable (prior to brain development; later only for health/safety) Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Wrong (if for fashion and obtained inhumanely) Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable (if necessary for compelling research) Gambling: Morally Acceptable Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Acceptable Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable The death penalty: Morally Wrong (assuming imperfect justice system) Divorce: Morally Acceptable Suicide: Morally Wrong (assuming depression-related) Cloning humans: Morally Acceptable (assuming the tech works right) Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Acceptable Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong |
Author: | Ladas [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Does the answer of "its up the individuals involved" equate to a Morally Right vote or a morally wrong vote, since the action might be one I wouldn't support for myself if involved, but don't care if others chose differently? Difference between personal and societal morality? Doctor assisted suicide: Suicide is an individual choice, and probably better carried out in a controlled environment, such as by a doctor, instead of jumping in front of train, or death by cop, etc. Gay or lesbian relations: Up to the individuals involved, but the actions of individuals related to this topic are annoying as sin and cause shifts they don't intend. Abortion: Lack of information and different situations that alter the answer. Having a baby outside of marriage: Up to the individuals. Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Up to the individuals. Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Up to the individuals, but in some cases, there are practicality issues that often get overlooked by the PETA types. Medical testing on animals: Too wide a spectrum with just that phrasing. There are limits to what I would and would not support. Gambling: Up to the individual. Its their money. Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Again, this is a wide spectrum with limits to what I would support. Besides, recently been reading that embryonic stem cells have a decent chance of actually being cancerous when used as a treatment, where as using stem cells that have already taken on a function do not, and seem to be providing better results in things like regrowth nerve tissue. Cloning animals: We clone plants... no one cares. The death penalty: Morally Acceptable Divorce: Morally Acceptable Suicide: Morally Acceptable Cloning humans: I don't know. Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Up to the individuals Married men and women having an affair: Up to the individuals |
Author: | RangerDave [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Ladas wrote: Does the answer of "its up the individuals involved" equate to a Morally Right vote or a morally wrong vote, since the action might be one I wouldn't support for myself if involved, but don't care if others chose differently? Difference between personal and societal morality? The published poll doesn't really specify, at least not that I saw. My answers were based on my personal moral sense, though not necessarily what my own choice would be. For instance, I have zero moral objection to homosexual relations, but I'm hetero, so I wouldn't choose to engage in them. |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:56 am ] |
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Doctor assisted suicide: Morally wrong. My jury's still out on pulling the plug on life support. Gay or lesbian relations: Sinful, but none of my (or the law's) business. I don't know how you'd consider that, morally. Abortion: Morally wrong, though I'm still waffling on rape. Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally wrong, but less so than aborting. Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally wrong. Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally acceptable. Medical testing on animals: Morally acceptable, though efforts should be made to be humane. Gambling: Morally acceptable, not always responsible. Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally wrong. Cloning animals: Morally wrong. The death penalty: Morally acceptable. Divorce: Complicated. Can be either, depending on the circumstances. I.e., I think it has morally acceptable circumstances, but has broadened beyond them. Suicide: Morally wrong. Cloning humans: Morally wrong. Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally wrong. Married men and women having an affair: Morally wrong. |
Author: | Aizle [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Doctor assisted suicide: Morally Acceptable Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Acceptable Abortion: Morally Acceptable Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Acceptable Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable Gambling: Morally Acceptable Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Acceptable Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable The death penalty: Morally Acceptable but practically wrong because of limitations in our legal system Divorce: Morally Acceptable Suicide: Morally Acceptable but unfortunate and should attempt to be prevented Cloning humans: Morally Acceptable Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Acceptable Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong from the standpoint of a betrayal of trust. |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu May 27, 2010 11:27 am ] |
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Great questions, RD. I'm going to decline to go on record with these, though. |
Author: | Hopwin [ Thu May 27, 2010 11:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Doctor assisted suicide: Wrong Gay or lesbian relations: Acceptable Abortion: Wrong Having a baby outside of marriage: Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Wrong Medical testing on animals: Acceptable (for certain animals that are genetically close enough to humans to mean anything. aka don't just torture monkeys) Gambling: Acceptable Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Wrong (Weird how most felt abortion was wrong but using their stem cells was thumbs up, people are retards) Cloning animals: Acceptable The death penalty: Wrong (common theme, taking any life is wrong...) Divorce: Acceptable Suicide: Wrong Cloning humans: Acceptable (cloning humans is fine so long as they are treated as humans) Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Wrong Married men and women having an affair: Wrong |
Author: | Lenas [ Thu May 27, 2010 11:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Doctor assisted suicide: Acceptable Gay or lesbian relations: Acceptable Abortion: Acceptable Having a baby outside of marriage: Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Acceptable Medical testing on animals: Depends if they're cute Gambling: Acceptable Stem cells obtained from human embryos: Acceptable Cloning animals: Acceptable The death penalty: Acceptable Divorce: Acceptable Suicide: Wrong Cloning humans: Acceptable Polygamy: Acceptable Married men and women having an affair: Wrong |
Author: | Screeling [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:29 pm ] |
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Can we do the IQ poll next? |
Author: | darksiege [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Doctor assisted suicide: Not a black and White issue. It has to be based on the conditions for the patient, etc. Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Acceptable Abortion: Not a black and white issue Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Acceptable over and over and over again. Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Wrong. If you hunt the animal yourself and have the clothes made... cool. But please use the animal and do not waste it. Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable Gambling: Morally Acceptable Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Acceptable. The embryos are not being harvested just for this... they are being harvested for other purposes too, so no life is wasted. Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable The death penalty: Morally Acceptable Divorce: Not a black and white issue. Suicide: Morally Wrong Cloning humans: Not a black and white issue Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Acceptable, just not for me. Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong. Open marriage is fine if both partners consent, but an outright affair is wrong. |
Author: | Khross [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
... That's a funny series of questions and an even funnier series of responses. |
Author: | Kirra [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
My morals: Doctor assisted suicide: Morally Acceptable - If a person can choose DNR status, why not let them choose when they are capable and not leave it up to familes who are unable to let go and keep you "alive" Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Acceptable Abortion: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong? not as a means for birth control, but in certain controlled situations; mom health in danger, birth defects in baby. Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally Wrong for the majority of the time, but..there are certain situations when a single mom with the right support system is able to handle having a baby and take care of it. Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Wrong - Why do we need to wear animal fun? We have all of the resources to keep warm, it's not needed. Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable in certain situations with tighter controls. Animals should not suffer for stupid projects. Gambling: Morally Acceptable Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Acceptable - Stem cells can be obtained from "products of conception" miscarriages that occur naturally, why shouldn't those be used for research? Along the same lines as Gift of Life, the choice could be made at the time. Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable - I would love to have a clone of my childhood dog =) Best dog in the world! The death penalty: Morally Acceptable - Eye for an Eye Divorce: Morally Acceptable - Well...my answer has since changed.. before I would have said you should do everything in your power to work things out, but sometimes you are not given the options to do this. Suicide: Morally Wrong Cloning humans: Morally Acceptable or Morally Wrong -depends on why you would clone...cloning body parts? yes.. Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Wrong - I don't like to share. Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong - ABSOLUTELY WRONG |
Author: | Rynar [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:42 pm ] |
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There is a distinction that needs to be drawn between morally acceptable and morally acceptable to legislate. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:44 pm ] |
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Rynar wrote: There is a distinction that needs to be drawn between morally acceptable and morally acceptable to legislate. How does that pertain to this thread? |
Author: | Khross [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
I think the thread is ultimately meaningless since responses will implicitly assume one of two competing schools of metaphysical thought without entertaining that neither is necessarily absolute or correct. |
Author: | Hopwin [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Khross wrote: I think the thread is ultimately meaningless since responses will implicitly assume one of two competing schools of metaphysical thought without entertaining that neither is necessarily absolute or correct. Shhhh! |
Author: | Stathol [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Khross wrote: I think the thread is ultimately meaningless since responses will implicitly assume one of two competing schools of metaphysical thought without entertaining that neither is necessarily absolute or correct. Moral realism and moral relativism? |
Author: | Aizle [ Thu May 27, 2010 1:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Khross wrote: I think the thread is ultimately meaningless since responses will implicitly assume one of two competing schools of metaphysical thought without entertaining that neither is necessarily absolute or correct. Sometimes Khross, the questions aren't as deep and detailed as you think they are. I don't think anyone believes that these questions are the end all be all answer. |
Author: | Khross [ Thu May 27, 2010 1:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Stathol: Yes. Aizle: I said nothing about the questions. I said something about the answers. |
Author: | Lenas [ Thu May 27, 2010 1:15 pm ] |
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I can really only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is answering these as absolutes. |
Author: | Khross [ Thu May 27, 2010 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Khross wrote: I think the thread is ultimately meaningless since responses will implicitly assume one of two competing schools of metaphysical thought without entertaining that neither is necessarily absolute or correct. Phrase subordination is apparently difficult. Nothing in this statement indicates that the responses are absolute. It simply states that the binary nature of the questions requires responses either be a statement of Moral Relativism or Moral Realism.
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Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu May 27, 2010 1:54 pm ] |
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Doctor assisted suicide: Acceptable Gay or lesbian relations: Acceptable Abortion: Wrong Having a baby outside of marriage: Acceptable Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Acceptable Medical testing on animals: Acceptable Gambling: Acceptable Stem cells obtained from human embryos: Acceptable (so long as not gathered explicitly for this purpose) Cloning animals: Acceptable The death penalty: Acceptable Divorce: Acceptable Suicide: Acceptable Cloning humans: Acceptable Polygamy: Acceptable Married men and women having an affair: Wrong |
Author: | Jocificus [ Thu May 27, 2010 5:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
Doctor assisted suicide: Jury's still out on this one for me, but I'm leaning towards Morally Wrong Gay or lesbian relations: Morally Wrong, but it's none of my business what you do. Abortion: This one's far to broad to answer. Having a baby outside of marriage: Again, this one is pretty broad, but generally Morally Wrong. Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally Wrong, but again it's none of my business. Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Acceptable Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable, with the caveat that it depends on exactly what kind of testing and it's effects. Gambling: Depending on situation, Morally Acceptable. Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally Wrong. Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable, with certain restrictions. The death penalty: Morally Acceptable. Divorce: Morally Acceptable, but for many cases now it's Morally Wrong. Suicide: Morally Wrong. Cloning humans: Morally Wrong? Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally Acceptable as long as all parties want it. Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong |
Author: | Lydiaa [ Thu May 27, 2010 6:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moral Issues - Are you in the majority? |
I'm gonna answer this in regards to myself, as what other people does, is mostly none of my business. Doctor assisted suicide: Morally acceptable Gay or lesbian relations: Morally acceptable Abortion: Morally wrong Having a baby outside of marriage: Morally wrong Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Morally acceptable Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Morally Acceptable Medical testing on animals: Morally Acceptable because testing on people is worse. Gambling: Morally wrong Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos: Morally acceptable, provided they are disgarded/miscarried, etc Cloning animals: Morally Acceptable The death penalty: Morally wrong. Divorce: Morally wrong, but sometimes it's out of your control Suicide: Morally Wrong. Cloning humans: Morally acceptable Polygamy, when one husband has more than one wife at the same time: Morally wrong Married men and women having an affair: Morally Wrong |
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