Here's what the President said: “If we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform,” in other words they're holding it hostage. They don't want to secure the border unless and until it's combined with comprehensive immigration reform.

I mean, this surprises people? Revolts and disgusts, yes. But surprise?

If he truly believes that "securing the border" will not solve the immigration problem, then it's tough to say he is knowingly derlict in his duty.

Not really. Preserving the sovereignty of the United States of America is basically job one for the PotUS. Chief on the list of "things that establish sovereignty" is having a border.

Again, if he thinks the only way to secure that border is through comprehensive reform, then he's not really knowingly in derelict of duty.

"Securing a border" has nothing to do with immigration policy, unless that policy is "let people freely walk across the border as they choose." In which case, why have a border.

Once again, words have meanings.

It amuses me sometimes that you guys actually think having a really tall wall would stop the illegals from getting into the country any way they can. They will simply change tactics, but they won't go away.

Take us for e.g. natural boarder, lots of deadly things, deadly landscape, and miles from nowhere. We still have people sneaking in in boats when their success rate is somewhat shoddy. We rescue people who get lost or die cause they weren't prepared for the journey more often then not.

A big wall is not going to help you, cracking down on the illegals and stop giving them rights will.

a secure boarder

A wall "worked" in Germany for many years. Not that I'm advocating such a thing, but to say it won't work requires ignoring reality.

Before the Wall's erection, 3.5 million East Germans circumvented Eastern Bloc emigration restrictions and defected from the GDR, many by crossing over the border from East Berlin into West Berlin, from where they could then travel to West Germany and other Western European countries. Between 1961 and 1989, the wall prevented almost all such emigration.[2] During this period, around 5,000 people attempted to escape over the wall, with estimates of the resulting death toll varying between 100 and 200.

Thereafter, only 5,000 crossed the Berlin Wall between 1961 and 1989.[79] Consequently, after the erection of the Wall, the total net emigration from Central and Eastern Europe fell even further to 1.9 million between 1960 and 1969, 1.1 million between 1970 and 1979.[65] This increased somewhat to 2.3 million between 1980 and 1989 with increased ethnic emigration after Mikhail Gorbachev came to power in the mid-1980s.[80]