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Author:  Ladas [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:26 am ]
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Obama flying to Denmark to present case for Chicago to get Olympics

Wonder how much this is costing tax payers... way to go!
Author:  Monte [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:33 am ]
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Imagine how well the investment will pay off if we get the olympics. Jobs, construction, lots of money in the economy. Think it through.
Author:  Ladas [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:43 am ]
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I don't believe you have thought it through at all, or you would realize the idiocy of that statement.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:53 am ]
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Ladas wrote:
I don't believe you have thought it through at all, or you would realize the idiocy of that statement.


If hosting the Olympics isn't very lucrative for the host city, then why is there such intense competition to host?
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:02 am ]
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Bragging rights.
Author:  Khross [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:04 am ]
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Probably, and this is just a stab in the dark here, because Ladas isn't concerned with the Olympics so much as the immediate cost of transporting the President and other U.S. dignitaries to Denmark for what amounts to a sales pitch.
Author:  Ladas [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:07 am ]
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Publicity and ego.

Here is a quick link on the economic impact of the Olympics.

That said, economics of hosting the games wasn't the basis of my comment to Monte.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:30 am ]
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I don't think it's really a worthy matter for the President's time to advocate for getting to host the Olympics. I don't really care about the cost at this point. The cost of a few days for the PResdient in Denmark is unworthy of public attention compared to the mountains of government waste elsewhere.
Author:  Midgen [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:06 pm ]
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I hope he took unpaid vacation and a commercial or private flight, and didn't do this at the US Taxpayers expense (but I know better).
Author:  DFK! [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:47 pm ]
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Ladas wrote:
I don't believe you have thought it through at all, or you would realize the idiocy of that statement.


This post was reported, though no specific rules violation was given. It was stated as being inflammatory, which I agree with. However, it does not attack/flame any given poster, only the statement the poster has made.

I therefore do not believe it warrants any type of censure, but wanted to make sure that it was visibly acknowledged, examined, and decided upon.
Author:  Rafael [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:05 am ]
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Monte wrote:
Imagine how well the investment will pay off if we get the olympics. Jobs, construction, lots of money in the economy. Think it through.


Really? Really?

"Lots of money in the economy". The vagueness of this statement doesn't really speak to any point, so I'm not going to bother with a rebuttal.

Jobs and construction to do what, exactly? Host an international competition? I think I've made it clear that I'm a huge fan of athletic competition in almost any guise. But this is not about my fandom of such a thing, it's about how funding the construction of the facilities to host the Olympics diverts resources away from other projects. Now yes, there is an increase of patronage in terms of local services and products vendored at the city to support the organizers, athletic teams, and spectator who take up residence for the duration. But it's trivially small compared to the cost to build such facilities. Chicago will benefit, no doubt, but the cost is to the rest of the country.

It's not a like-for-like, it is a net loss. Those facilities being there, the increased patronage, any rennovation and done to restructure the city to support the event and the benefits associated with those civil/architectural upgrades are not going to result in some miraculous boon to pay for itself, let alone make returns in the future.

That said, I absolutely love the city of Chicago; the first time I went outside of a family vacation was 2006 on a flawless 70 degree, cloudless day in summer of 2006. The lake is stunning when the weather is nice and the winds are calm. I can't think of a more picturesque backdrop as far as urban settings are concerned. Cruising down Lakeshore Dr. is a memory I still remiscense about. However, I am clearly stating my support for having the event hosted there purely from non-fiscal perspective. Chicago is not so different from any other of the ubiquitous large, non-capital cities that dot the globe.
Author:  Micheal [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:17 am ]
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In this instance, I'm agreeing with bringing the Olympics to America, giving Chicago the chance to build world class stadiums, arenas and so on. we can use the good world press, the publicity in a positive light.

Its not like we're going to pay off the debt we already have anytime soon. Lets party Chicago style.
Author:  Ladas [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:06 am ]
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Perhaps Obama should worry more about the rampant violence in Chicago before endorsing it to the world as a prime location for world travel.
Author:  Timmit [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:14 am ]
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Ladas wrote:
Perhaps Obama should worry more about the rampant violence in Chicago before endorsing it to the world as a prime location for world travel.

Maybe they should have it in Baltimore instead ;)
Author:  Müs [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:04 pm ]
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Or Detroit? Or DC?
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:32 pm ]
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Warez < Detroit < Baltimore < the underside of a fat man's scrotum < Chicago
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