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Author: | Uncle Fester [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:23 am ] |
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... ther-case/ Quote: A former Justice official who claims the administration backed off a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party for racial reasons is set to testify Tuesday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
The testimony from J. Christian Adams, who resigned from the Justice Department last month in protest of the administration's handling of the case, comes after he made a series of explosive allegations during an interview with Fox News last week. He said the administration abandoned an open-and-shut case of voter intimidation and that Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez gave false testimony before the commission in May. Adams claims the administration has failed to prosecute non-whites when it comes to voting intimidation cases and that the New Black Panther incident demonstrates that. "I don't think the department or the fine people who work there are corrupt, but in this particular instance, to abandon law-abiding citizens and abet wrongdoers constitutes corruption," Adams told Fox News. The case stems from an incident on Election Day in 2008 in Philadelphia, where members of the New Black Panther Party were videotaped in front of a polling place, dressed in military-style uniforms and allegedly hurling racial slurs while one brandished a night stick. Video Reporters Confront New Black Panther Black Panther, reporter confrontation Video Obama 'Violated his Oath of Office' Bartle Bull's stinging criticism Related Links Top Justice Dept. Official Lied Under Oath About Dismissal of New Black Panther Case, Ex-DOJ Lawyer Says Former Justice Department Lawyer Accuses Holder of Dropping New Black Panther Case for Racial Reasons The Bush Justice Department brought the first case against three members of the group, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voter Rights Act. The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court. But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012. The department boasted that justice had been served. But Adams, the former administration lawyer, accused the Justice Department of not continuing the case for political and racial reasons. Adams called the case "a slam dunk," telling Fox News that "nobody thought there was any doubt that this was the clearest case of voter intimidation that I've seen since I've been practicing law." The Justice Department disagrees, saying it enforces voting rights laws equally. In a written statement, the department questioned the motives of Adams, now an attorney in Virginia and a blogger for Pajamas Media. "It is not uncommon for attorneys with the department to have good faith disagreements about the appropriate course of action in a particular case, although it is regrettable when a former department attorney distorts the facts and makes baseless allegations to promote his or her agenda," the statement said. But Bartle Bull, who was a poll watcher in Philadelphia in 2008, doesn't buy the Justice Department denials. "I find it deeply offensive," Bull said. "I know people who died over these issues, like Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. If we can't defend their legacy, it's shameful to us and this administration." Bull is a prominent New York Democrat and longtime political adviser. He was Robert F. Kennedy's New York campaign manager, went to the south in the 1960s to protect the voting rights of black voters and just came back from Afghanistan where he traveled with the troops. He says the administration's actions amount to protecting the New Black Panthers. "If Americans can't vote honestly, and the government doesn't protect their right to vote, we don't live in a democracy. Last year Obama complained when the government in Afghanistan did not run the election properly. What about Pennsylvania?" he said, claiming the president "violated his oath of office." Bull has already testified before the Civil Rights Commission, and the commissioners also want to hear from Christopher Coates, the former chief of the Justice Department's voting section who has since been transferred to the U.S. attorney's office in South Carolina. But the commission claims the Justice Department is blocking Coates from testifying about why the case was dropped. Bull said that in 2008, one of the Black Panthers turned to him and said "now you will know what it means to be ruled by the black man, cracker." The result of the Justice Department action, or lack of it, he said, is that "these guys now think it's safe for them to bully voters and citizens. And that's why the Department of Justice must stand up." |
Author: | Vindicarre [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:29 am ] |
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I was kind of "meh" on the whole thing, sure that it would amount to nothing, until Bartle Bull showed up. If they can brush him aside, there really is no hope for them, or their ideals. |
Author: | Dash [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:51 am ] |
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I just watched this video on it with Christian Adams: http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=86&load=3840 Crazy stuff. Really **** up if true and Adams came off as very credible to me. |
Author: | Müs [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:07 am ] |
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Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:07 am ] |
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Quote: one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012. The department boasted that justice had been served. ... |
Author: | Dash [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:11 pm ] |
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Well I dont see what the fuss is, seems like a reasonable guy: |
Author: | darksiege [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:55 pm ] |
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that is perfectly acceptable Dash.... only white people can be racist. Didn't you get the memo? |
Author: | Jasmy [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:56 pm ] |
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Wow! |
Author: | Screeling [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:42 am ] |
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In all fairness, the white devil is keeping him down... |
Author: | Uncle Fester [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:36 pm ] |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopOpinion Quote: J. Christian Adams,, a former career Justice Department lawyer who resigned recently to protest political interference in cases he worked on, made some news yesterday in testimony before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
As expected, he claimed that Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli, an Obama appointee, overruled a unanimous recommendation by six career Justice attorneys for continued prosecution of members of the New Black Panther Party on charges of voter intimidation in an incident I detailed here yesterday. But Mr. Adams leveled an even more explosive charge beyond the Panther case. He testified that last year Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes made a jaw-dropping announcement to attorneys in Justice's Voting Rights section. She said she would not support any enforcement of a key section of the federal "Motor Voter" law -- Section 8, which requires states to periodically purge their voter rolls of dead people, felons, illegal voters and those who have moved out of state. According to Mr. Adams, Justice lawyers were told by Ms. Fernandes: "We're not interested in those kind of cases. What do they have to do with helping increase minority access and turnout? We want to increase access to the ballot, not limit it." If true, Ms. Fernandes was endorsing a policy of ignoring federal law and encouraging potential voter fraud. Ms. Fernandes was unavailable for comment yesterday, but the Justice Department has issued a statement accusing Mr. Adams of "distorting facts" in general and having a political agenda. But there is some evidence backing up Mr. Adams. Last year, Justice abandoned a case it had pursued for three years against Missouri for failing to clean up its rolls. When filed in 2005, one-third of Missouri counties had more registered voters than voting-age residents. What's more, Missouri Secretary of State Robin Carnahan, a Democrat who this year is her party's candidate for a vacant U.S. Senate seat, contended that her office had no obligation to ensure individual counties were complying with the federal law mandating a cleanup of their voter rolls. The case made slow but steady progress through the courts for more than three years, amid little or no evidence of progress in cleaning up Missouri's voter rolls. Despite this, Obama Justice saw fit to dismiss the case in March 2009. Curiously, only a month earlier, Ms. Carnahan had announced her Senate candidacy. Missouri has a long and documented history of voter fraud in Democratic-leaning cities such as St. Louis and Kansas City. Ms. Carnahan may now stand to benefit from voter fraud facilitated by the improperly kept voter rolls that she herself allowed to continue. Mr. Adams' allegations would seem to call for the senior management of Justice to be compelled to testify under oath to U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. But Justice is making none of its officials available and is refusing to enforce subpoenas issued by the commission. The more this story develops, the more it appears Justice is engaged in a massive coverup of its politicization of voting rights cases. |
Author: | Ladas [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:44 pm ] |
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The Department of Justice if refusing to enforce subpoenas... wtf. |
Author: | Elmarnieh [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
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So how many more months can people pretend they are free? |
Author: | Screeling [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:53 pm ] |
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Wow.... now that was truly disgusting. |
Author: | Monte [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:19 pm ] |
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Ummm, it was the Bush administration that decided not to prosecute, because no one in that district has come forward with any actual complaint of voter intimidation. Vince Foster-level stupidity from Fox. |
Author: | Screeling [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 pm ] |
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If the Bush administration decided not to prosecute, how did the Obama administration win a default judgment in 2009? |
Author: | darksiege [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:43 pm ] |
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Screeling wrote: If the Bush administration decided not to prosecute, how did the Obama administration win a default judgment in 2009? happy, feel good, the spunk I swallow from the savior can not be wrong attitudes? |
Author: | Uncle Fester [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:47 pm ] |
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Monty never letting the facts get in the way of what he feels |
Author: | Dash [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:24 pm ] |
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Monte: According to who? |
Author: | Vindicarre [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:31 pm ] |
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According to someone who has no clue, MediaMatters. Even with MediaMatters spoon feeding him, our newest troll still got it wrong. The suit was brought in January 2009 it wasn't dropped until months later. Blame it on Bush, sure thing. |
Author: | Dash [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:35 pm ] |
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I was gonna say MediaMatters has been on this one trying to deflect. IMO that just makes it worse for the Obama administration. I mean, maybe this story doesnt have legs but it certainly would seem like it does especially with that video and all the former workers corroborating the story. |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:23 pm ] |
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Good to see the place hasn't lost it's venom. Let's walk through this, shall we? If you guys are correct, and if the Obama justice department is covering for the black panthers, then why did the Obama DOJ obtain a judgment against Samir Shabazz for carrying his nightstick outside a polling place in PA? The Bush Adminstration did make the initial choice to not prosecute. Were they being racist or was there some conspiracy then? If there isn't one under the Bush administration, why are you accusing the Obama administration of some nefarious plot? Is it, perhaps, because Obama and Holder are black (I ask because the sources that have blown this story out of proportion have been screaming racism to the hills)? And if so, why should that have anything to do with it? In other words, if the Bush administration (white president, white AG) didn't see any need to prosecute, and if the Republican vice chairwoman of the US Comission on Civil Rights said it was "Overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges", then when is it suddenly a scandal? The man who has been making these charges is a well known republican operative with a history of politicizing the justice department. He has also said he has *no* first hand knowlegde of any of the things he is accusing the President or his administration of. However, it is a Democratic administration. And, from y'all's perspective, the President *is* a liberal. And he's *not* the guy you wanted to be President. Many of you think he's a dirty hippie commie nazi socialist, so I can see why you might take these unsubstantiated and unsupported accusations and run with them. It feels right. It's a gotcha moment. It also keeps you locked into Fox News, who is unsurprisingly covering the story with breathless anticipation for the next fabrication. The echo chamber is in full gear, with Limbaugh and Hannity and all the others trumpeting this as the next sperm-coated blue dress. It's Vince Foster all over again. Someone, somewhere *knows* there's been a crime committed. And since the person accused of that wrongdoing is from the other tribe, they must be guilty. |
Author: | Dash [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:02 pm ] |
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You're getting that info from here sounds like: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070020 The guy you're calling a "republican operative" is testifying now in front of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, so I guess we will see what happens. |
Author: | darksiege [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:01 pm ] |
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that site is far into biasville it is not funny. |
Author: | Nitefox [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:03 pm ] |
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One of the frustrating things about this whole New Black Panthers issue is the coverage of them vs the coverage of the Tea Party. We've got Black Panthers wanting to kill white babies and cops but if a bunch of Tea Party folk gather in mass because they don't like the direction the government is heading, they get tagged as the biggest threat to the safety of this country. No media lib bias my ***. |
Author: | Nitefox [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:37 pm ] |
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