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Author: | Squirrel Girl [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:50 am ] |
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This article discusses a Doctor who is closing his practice because it was costing him more money to keep the office open than he was being paid. http://www.mysanantonio.com/health/medicare_headaches_lead_doctor_to_shutter_practice_98277779.html?c=y&page=1#storytop Spoiler: Note that the statement by the CMS guy is misleading at the very least. CMS (which sends out Medicare payments) has stopped all payments for roughly one have of 2010. Usually this happens when there is a payment cut put in that is expected to be reversed. This has put them further and further behind in their payments. |
Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:58 am ] |
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I wonder if he will practice in private for gold or silver. |
Author: | FarSky [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:01 am ] |
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Ah, lovely. Now this'll be stuck in my head for the rest of the day. [youtube]oMlqn_Hjyi8[/youtube] |
Author: | RangerDave [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:02 am ] |
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Can't watch Flash on this browser at work, but am I correct in guessing that it's "Silver and Gold" from Rudolph? |
Author: | FarSky [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:02 am ] |
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Ayup. Dammit. |
Author: | Rynar [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:10 am ] |
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http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/05/doctors-forced-accept-medicare-rates-stay-licensed.html Quote: Doctors may be forced to accept Medicare rates to stay licensed
by Chris Rangel, MD Massachusetts has a problem. In April 2007, they became the first state to require residents to have health insurance. Reportedly this has resulted in 300,000 newly insured patients and lowered the uninsured population to 5%. But of course, given the relatively poor reimbursement rates for primary care providers, especially when it comes to government insurance, the state is facing a growing shortage of primary care providers. Without an adequate supply of primary care physicians, however, the plan cannot guarantee timely access to care, creating a gap between coverage and actual provision of services. As a result, waiting times to see a primary care physician can amount to weeks and even months in some instances. It’s ironic since the health care reform bill in Massachusetts was supposed to stress the importance of preventative care but because of the relative shortage of doctors to deliver preventative care, many patients are seeking primary care from specialists. Unfortunately, specialists also specialize in expensive care. Thus, health reform in Massachusetts has resulted in decreased access to primary care and higher costs. This is what happens when you call an expansion of government health care spending, health care “reform” instead of legislation that actually reforms a broken system. This may be a bad harbinger of what is to come for the rest of the nation. What can Massachusetts do to actually reform their primary care system? Well, they can improve primary care reimbursement or revamp the reimbursement system to reward overall care and good outcomes rather then only rewarding physicians for visits (quantity over quality) or medical school debt repayment. But why pay doctors more for better care when you can just force them to accept lower reimbursement rates (as low as 110% of Medicare rates) “as a condition of their licensure” that would effectively make these physicians employees of the state? [Senate bill 2170 and house bill 4452] would require physicians and all other health care providers to accept 110% of Medicare rates for health insurance for small businesses. For physicians, acceptance of set rates would be as a condition of licensure! Moreover, physicians would have to accept all such patients – and such rates – if they participate in any other plan offered by that insurer. The stated purpose of such a misguided bill is to try to decrease health care costs for small businesses but all it does is show how little the sponsors of these bills understand medical economics. These bills make no distinction between primary care providers who are in the best position to decrease costs and specialists who tend to increase costs. Both are penalized equally. Nor do these bills require private insurers to pass on savings to employers. The end result is likely to be a net loss of physicians to nearby states and many who join the increasing ranks of physicians who have cash only practices. Even from a practical standpoint, these bills are confusing. What does “as a condition of their licensure” mean? Does this apply only to new applicants or to re-applicants? Are physicians who refuse to accept lower rates going to be stripped of their licenses? What about physicians who are employees of private health clinics who do not have control over the rates that are accepted? Will they be forced to quit or risk losing their licenses? Aren’t people in the Northeast supposed to be generally smarter or does that not apply to their state legislators? Is this the beginning of the nationalization of health care in this country? Is this a good time to get out of the profession of medical care? |
Author: | darksiege [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:11 pm ] |
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I would like to once again voice my support that the people in the government who voted for this healthcare be the first to suffer and die off as the price for idiocy. |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:03 pm ] |
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Pretty sure doctors will be doing fine when they suddenly have millions upon millions of new customers coming to them for care that could not afford to do so before. Call me crazy, but this health care bill is a massive windfall for the health care industry. It's also a big win for patients who will be able to afford health care and not be terrified that their insurance company will cut them off at the knees in order to save a buck at the margins. |
Author: | Rynar [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:13 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: Pretty sure doctors will be doing fine when they suddenly have millions upon millions of new customers coming to them for care that could not afford to do so before. Call me crazy, but this health care bill is a massive windfall for the health care industry. It's also a big win for patients who will be able to afford health care and not be terrified that their insurance company will cut them off at the knees in order to save a buck at the margins. ... If I am losing money on every single busines transaction I make, I cannot make it up in volume. -1(1)= -1 and -1(1,000,000)= -1,000,000 |
Author: | Hopwin [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:24 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: Pretty sure doctors will be doing fine when they suddenly have millions upon millions of new customers coming to them for care that could not afford to do so before. Call me crazy, but this health care bill is a massive windfall for the health care industry. It's also a big win for patients who will be able to afford health care and not be terrified that their insurance company will cut them off at the knees in order to save a buck at the margins. True, my doctor is always sitting on his hands waiting for me to call and schedule an appointment. That definitely explains why the soonest they can squeeze me in is a week from Tuesday. |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:27 pm ] |
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Because the work I do is exactly the same thing as health care. Health care is not a commodity, like t-shirts or the services of a fight choreographer. I am sure you will disagree, but it's not. Just more argument for going single payer or simply nationalizing the industry. |
Author: | Müs [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:28 pm ] |
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Rynar wrote: Monte wrote: Pretty sure doctors will be doing fine when they suddenly have millions upon millions of new customers coming to them for care that could not afford to do so before. Call me crazy, but this health care bill is a massive windfall for the health care industry. It's also a big win for patients who will be able to afford health care and not be terrified that their insurance company will cut them off at the knees in order to save a buck at the margins. ... If I am losing money on every single busines transaction I make, I cannot make it up in volume. -1(1)= -1 and -1(1,000,000)= -1,000,000 |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:30 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: True, my doctor is always sitting on his hands waiting for me to call and schedule an appointment. That definitely explains why the soonest they can squeeze me in is a week from Tuesday. A massive increase in demand is going to cause a shortage for a while, but more clinics will open to serve the demand. |
Author: | Rynar [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:31 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: Because the work I do is exactly the same thing as health care. Health care is not a commodity, like t-shirts or the services of a fight choreographer. I am sure you will disagree, but it's not. Just more argument for going single payer or simply nationalizing the industry. Does healthcare require the labor of someone other than yourself? How do you propose, in your infinite wisdom, to make the doctors who are still practicing now continue to practice under a system that doesn't pay them? How do you propose, oh great seer of things, to draw the best and the brightest to become new doctors if there is no potential for great rewards to balance the great sacrifices one must make to practice medicine? |
Author: | Screeling [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:32 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: Hopwin wrote: True, my doctor is always sitting on his hands waiting for me to call and schedule an appointment. That definitely explains why the soonest they can squeeze me in is a week from Tuesday. A massive increase in demand is going to cause a shortage for a while, but more clinics will open to serve the demand. Not when they're going out of business because they can't afford to stay open. Seriously, did you even read it? |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:35 pm ] |
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Well, forgive me, but one guy going out of business is in no way a trend. He could have managed his business better. I think this is an amazing display of hypocrisy, though. If this man were a man who had lost his job through no fault of his own, you would be screaming to the heavens that it must have been his own fault and that he was responsible for his unemployed state. But oh, the poor victim of sosh'listicy tyranny. |
Author: | Screeling [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:39 pm ] |
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Can you explain how inadequate Medicare reimbursement is his fault? |
Author: | Monte [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:40 pm ] |
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If he was a better business person, he could have made up his losses in other ways, right? If he had better business sense, he would have cut costs or expanded in order to deal with the new realities. But he didn't. But he's a victim, and the unemployed guy is not. |
Author: | Müs [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:41 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: Hopwin wrote: True, my doctor is always sitting on his hands waiting for me to call and schedule an appointment. That definitely explains why the soonest they can squeeze me in is a week from Tuesday. A massive increase in demand is going to cause a shortage for a while, but more clinics will open to serve the demand. A doctor is not like a fry cook at mc donald's. You can't just "Open a Clinic" without hiring trained, educated medical personnel. There's already a doctor shortage in this country. You want to exacerbate that problem? |
Author: | Nitefox [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:42 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: If he was a better business person, he could have made up his losses in other ways, right? If he had better business sense, he would have cut costs or expanded in order to deal with the new realities. But he didn't. But he's a victim, and the unemployed guy is not. Wow. I didn't know you were this big of an idiot. That is truly surprising. |
Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:43 pm ] |
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Müs wrote: There's already a doctor shortage in this country. You want to exacerbate that problem? In another thread he proposes to double their taxes too. He's ... just ... |
Author: | Müs [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:43 pm ] |
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Taskiss wrote: Müs wrote: There's already a doctor shortage in this country. You want to exacerbate that problem? In another thread he proposes to double their taxes too. He's ... just ... FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY!!! THINK OF THE CHILDRENS!!! |
Author: | FarSky [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:46 pm ] |
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Out of curiosity: can the doctor refuse to see Medicare patients? |
Author: | Müs [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:47 pm ] |
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FarSky wrote: Out of curiosity: can the doctor refuse to see Medicare patients? I'm not sure, but I don't think they can. |
Author: | Rynar [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:48 pm ] |
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Monte wrote: If he was a better business person, he could have made up his losses in other ways, right? If he had better business sense, he would have cut costs or expanded in order to deal with the new realities. But he didn't. But he's a victim, and the unemployed guy is not. You didn't read this thread either did you? Perhaps you should do some actual research about the plight of healthcare in Massachusetts since they adopted a universal system, a system that nearly mirrors the federal one, rather than sticking your head into the sand that is DKoS and political soundbites from President Obama and Governor Patrick. Good Lord, man. I feel like I'm reading an Ayn Rand novel. FarSky: Yes, and it is becoming more and more common. Scroll up and read the article I posted. |
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