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Three of George Carlin's finest minutes
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Author:  Micheal [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:32 pm ]
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Author:  Midgen [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:00 am ]
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gah, that link goes to facebook... booooo :p
Author:  Dash [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:00 am ]
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Meh. Load of populist nonsense, typical class warfare except he is rich and lumping himself in with the "us" in "us vrs them".
Author:  Diamondeye [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:20 am ]
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The only fine moments George Carlin ever had was narrating "Thomas the Tank Engine."
Author:  Ladas [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:46 am ]
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Bill and Ted... OMG
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:31 pm ]
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Easier to blame some phantom group and claim there is nothing to be done than it is to actually examine complicated problems.
Author:  Slythe [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:03 pm ]
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I would argue overlooking his political naivety (which I believe he did have) and key in on his linguistic acrobatics and the few very funny comedic bits he gave us...one of those without question was the Football vs. Baseball sketch.
Author:  Rodahn [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:29 am ]
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George Carlin was one of those comedians you either "got" or "didn't get" as far as humor style goes.

Either his harsh, direct style turned you off or it was a breath of fresh air.
Author:  Talya [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:54 am ]
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Carlin was the most brilliant comedian to ever exist. I don't feel he was naive about anything, unfortunately. He had no us vs. them mentality, he criticized every part of the human race equally. His rampant misanthropy might turn you off -- he firmly believed we are a species in decline, "circling the drain toward extinction," as he put it. I like to have a bit more hope than that -- that perhaps we can transcend the destructive path we've been on for the last several thousand years. But he was on the right track ... at least with the way things are going now.
Author:  Taskiss [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:30 pm ]
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Talya wrote:
Carlin was the most brilliant comedian to ever exist.

I'd vote for Clemens as the most brilliant. Carlin... I'd say that he's #3 or 4 for the later half of the 20th century, behind Lenny Bruce and Bill Cosby for sure.
Author:  Micheal [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:05 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CebRfSFnWGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSqKsHYd ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcTUux-3 ... re=related

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/lbruce.htm

Says it better than I can. Bruce was the revolution, the pilgrim, the pioneer of stand up shock comedy.

I love Carlin's routines, but he couldn't have done what he did if Bruce hadn't run point.
Author:  Rynar [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:35 pm ]
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Meh, Carlin was OK. Sometimes he was great, sometimes he just plain sucked, and sometimes, late in his career, he was a naive populist pulsing more rhetoric than substance.
Author:  Midgen [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:36 pm ]
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I got a few chuckles from Carlin, but I could never stand him for more than a few minutes at a time...
Author:  Monte [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:41 pm ]
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I would never describe George Carlin as naive. His excoriations of the wealthy, of politicians, and of religion were excellent.
Author:  DFK! [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:09 pm ]
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Monte wrote:
I would never describe George Carlin as naive. His excoriations of the wealthy, of politicians, and of religion were excellent.


But not his excoriations of government?
Author:  Monte [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:03 pm ]
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No, those were excellent, to. Thought I covered that under politicians.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:07 pm ]
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Monte wrote:
I would never describe George Carlin as naive. His excoriations of the wealthy, of politicians, and of religion were excellent.


Maybe excellent in terms of confirming your beliefs, but the man was a talentless hack.
Author:  Monte [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:19 pm ]
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, lol. Talentless hack? Not even a little. The guy was a genius. He could be truly nasty sometimes. There are times (like immediately after 9-11) where I didn't agree with what he had to say, but the craft was still there.
Author:  DFK! [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:33 pm ]
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Monte wrote:
No, those were excellent, to. Thought I covered that under politicians.


As you are so often quick to point out, government is the sum of the individuals who create it, and should therefore be, and typically is, discussed and defined separately.
Author:  darksiege [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:36 am ]
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Rynar wrote:
Meh, Carlin was OK. Sometimes he was great, sometimes he just plain sucked, and sometimes, late in his career, he was a naive populist pulsing more rhetoric than substance.


This oh so very much. I am only missing the DVD of one of his performances. And they lost something over the years.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:06 am ]
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Monte wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, lol. Talentless hack? Not even a little. The guy was a genius. He could be truly nasty sometimes. There are times (like immediately after 9-11) where I didn't agree with what he had to say, but the craft was still there.


No, he was a talentless hack. All he did was take naive populist rhetoric and present it as a comedy routine. He had nothing to say that wasn't a regurgitation of the oversimplified crap that people repeat to themselves to nurse their own resentments.
Author:  Talya [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:20 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote:

No, he was a talentless hack. All he did was take naive populist rhetoric and present it as a comedy routine. He had nothing to say that wasn't a regurgitation of the oversimplified crap that people repeat to themselves to nurse their own resentments.


If you believe this, you haven't really listened to him. He was nothing like that at all.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:23 am ]
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Talya wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:

No, he was a talentless hack. All he did was take naive populist rhetoric and present it as a comedy routine. He had nothing to say that wasn't a regurgitation of the oversimplified crap that people repeat to themselves to nurse their own resentments.


If you believe this, you haven't really listened to him.


I haven't listened to him extensively, but other than the aforementioned "Thomas the Tank Engine" narrative, that's everything I've heard. Claiming that means I haven't really listened to him is essentially just saying "but if you really listened you'd agree with me!"
Author:  Talya [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:28 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote:

I haven't listened to him extensively, but other than the aforementioned "Thomas the Tank Engine" narrative, that's everything I've heard. Claiming that means I haven't really listened to him is essentially just saying "but if you really listened you'd agree with me!"



The thing is, for the most part, you would agree with Carlin. Certainly not everything, (religion comes to mind. I'd say politics, but you'd agree with some of it. No one party incurred his wrath -- he roasted them all equally) but most of it. His biggest comedic criticisms were reserved for the politically correct movement, social-activist groups (such as feminists and environmentalists), the english language itself (which isn't to single out English, more because it's the only language he spoke), yuppie culture, and the media. He'd have fit in just fine on an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit!, it was probably one of his favorite shows.

If Carlin had a downside, it was his utter nihilism. Of course, through extreme schaedenfreud, he found it all rather funny, but he could not see an upside to anything in human culture--ANY part of human culture. In his later years, he seemed to truly believe that homo sapiens were a species in decline, that we were pretty much devoid of redeeming qualities, and there is little hope left for us. It's a rather depressing view, if you can't sit back and laugh at human inadequacies, (years of reading authors like Douglas Adams makes that easier for some of us than others,) but some of us still hold out hope that we can evolve past our current issues.
Author:  Dash [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:33 am ]
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I found him funny but over rated. A lot of comedians like him seem to live on the edge and then plummet off. He goes to the fringes, exaggerates for effect and then just goes into some spiral.

I didnt follow his career enough to say if it was a linear progression towards the end or if he was always like that, but it's clear to me when he just resorts to that vapid "everything sucks, we're all doomed" stuff. People suck, there is no god and it's all bullshit, i'm a nihilist, i love it when people die in natural disasters because we deserve it... blah blah blah.

I hate that hubris he shows here, how most people just do x and y but he's trying to wake people up.
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