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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:25 pm 
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http://money.cnn.com/news/storysuppleme ... index.html

Wonder which states vote which way...

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Red States funded by Blue States

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Monte wrote:


This is an intellectually dishonest argument, because it assumes that those "Red States" which tend more towards small government conservatism, would seek to impose many costly and liberally minded federal mandates on themselves, which those monies go to pay for.

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Monte wrote:

That map is just about worthless since it doesn't provide any information regarding the magnitude of the differences.

But even so, by my count, 11 out of the 29 (38% of) blue states in the last election receive more in federal revenues than they pay in federal taxes. And on the other side of the equation, the largest (and perhaps most "notorious") red state pays more in federal taxes than it receives. That's not much of a correlation, especially when you're honest and don't count "swing states" as being either red or blue.

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Monte wrote:


sounds like a good reason to cut federal spending accross the board and make states do the same or deal with their consquences all by themselves.

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it also over looks various aspects about the states make up of lands, Take arizona for instance over 70% of the state is public land
We have 6 very large National forests 15 national monuments and 24 National parks.
Compared that to Texas which is 90% privately held land.
Where do you think the funding for federal land management should come from?

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Not to mention how much of any given state is Indian Reservations.

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hell I didn't even think about that, The Navajo Reservation is the largest in the US.
Large enough that they have talked about becoming their own State, It usually dies when they realize the change in federal funding would cost them money.

12 Indian reservations In AZ

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Leshani wrote:
it also over looks various aspects about the states make up of lands, Take arizona for instance over 70% of the state is public land
We have 6 very large National forests 15 national monuments and 24 National parks.


70% public land is misleading in the context you use there.

Federal land should be paid by federal dollars. "Public land" can be federal, state, or local. You sort of imply that the feds own and should pay for 70% of Arizona.


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Often it's hard to separate the 2 Alamo lake state park for instance, is run and funded by the state but it's a federal flood control project off the Bill Williams river, it's also backed up against a
national wildlife preserve.
good map that covers the federal Lands in AZ
http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printable/ ... nds/az.pdf

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Either way the spending of this administration gives me gas.

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Either way the spending of this administration gives me gas.
Speak of the devil ...

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The debt incurred by states is necessary to pay for public services. Taking on debts is part of the normal functioning of government and is not a large concern.


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Who rolls in after nearly a year and posts about their gas?


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Who rolls in after nearly a year and posts about their gas?

Were these posted out of order?


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