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Author:  Müs [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:31 am ]
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A likely outcome? Hm.

Author:  TheRiov [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:14 am ]
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I think this is a disgusting ad --plays on racist/ethnocentric fears. The message may or may not be accurate but I'm repulsed by the tactic.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:17 am ]
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I can't tell what I'm more disgusted by. The ad itself, or the weak minded fools who fall for it.

Author:  Khross [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:18 am ]
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TheRiov wrote:
I think this is a disgusting ad --plays on racist/ethnocentric fears. The message may or may not be accurate but I'm repulsed by the tactic.
It has nothing to do with racism or ethnocentric fears. No one was stereotyped; no mentions of Red China, Chairman Mao, or Communism were made. So, I'm curious as to how a bunch of obviously middle class university students constitutes racism or negative stereotyping.

Author:  Khross [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:19 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
I can't tell what I'm more disgusted by. The ad itself, or the weak minded fools who fall for it.
Then answer the same question I asked TheRiov. What makes the ad racist?

We can talk about the economics later.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:26 am ]
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Khross wrote:
Aizle wrote:
I can't tell what I'm more disgusted by. The ad itself, or the weak minded fools who fall for it.
Then answer the same question I asked TheRiov. What makes the ad racist?

We can talk about the economics later.


I never said it was racist.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:27 am ]
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Not surprisingly, I wholly disagree with Aizle and TheRiov. The ad is only racist/ethnocentric if you think any depiction of people other than white is such. The ad could have featured a classroom full of Norwegians, and those who think this one is racist/ethnocentric would have thought it was fine. However, Norwegians don't hold hundreds of $Billions of our debt, so the ad would have had the same (imagined) "racist/ethnocentric" elements, but it would have been inaccurate.

I thought it was a very effective ad that accurately, spoke volumes of truth.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:30 am ]
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Then what is the source of your disgust, and why are the "fools" who are swayed by it "weak-minded," Aizle?

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:35 am ]
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It's over simplified, makes huge allegations which are not true, plays to fears about China as the next big economic power and plays to fears about communism.

Based on the above, I would think the fools part is self evident.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:42 am ]
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What is the oversimplification?
What huge allegations are not true?

You might say it "plays to fears" while I might say it "highlights a dangerous path". Of course you might also say that telling your children not to touch the stove "plays to fears" of being burned, while I might say it "highlights a dangerous path"...

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:45 am ]
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The economics are horribly oversimplified, as are the reasons for the downfalls of the civilizations that have already fallen.
And it alledges that the British and US will fall as civilizations, and that the reason is our economic policies.

Author:  DFK! [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:47 am ]
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Considering the former extent of the British Empire, I'd posit that we should consider them to have already "fallen."


Edit: Please note I haven't watched this video, as I cannot do so from work. Just commenting on the whole BE falling.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:55 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
The economics are horribly oversimplified...

How so?

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...as are the reasons for the downfalls of the civilizations that have already fallen.

How so?
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And it alledges [sic] that the British and US will fall as civilizations, and that the reason is our economic policies.

It alleges nothing about the British civilization falling.
It accurately highlights the most prominent theory for the downfall of the US as a dominant world power.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:02 am ]
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Eh, enjoy your fear mongering guys.

I'm going to stop posting until the insanity of the elections are done. Everyone is way too riled and partisan right now.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:35 am ]
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Enjoy your holier-than-thou world-view.

I am not "riled", nor am I "partisan". Simply, facts are facts and ignorance of reality is still ignorance.

Author:  Xequecal [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:36 am ]
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It's offensive because it suggests the Chinese people as a whole are:

1. Actively attempting to own/enslave us.
2. Laughing at our misfortune.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 am ]
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Only if you believe that this fictional portrayal of a hypothetical future is intended to be taken as a portrayal of factual current reality and representative of the totality of "the Chinese people".

Author:  shuyung [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:45 am ]
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And you know what else? The top guy at cagw.org is named Goldberger. This is obviously indicative of a larger Jew/Chink conspiracy.

Author:  darksiege [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:50 am ]
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shuyung wrote:
And you know what else? The top guy at cagw.org is named Goldberger. This is obviously indicative of a larger Jew/Chink conspiracy.


Damned jewchinks.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:01 pm ]
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shuyung wrote:
And you know what else? The top guy at cagw.org is named Goldberger. This is obviously indicative of a larger Jew/Chink conspiracy.


It was founded by two dead guys, so don't forget the zombie community, you lifeist.

Author:  shuyung [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:10 pm ]
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AAAGGGHHH! Obviously, we must gather our wallets and household pets and run for our lives!

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:12 pm ]
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Aizle wrote:
Eh, enjoy your fear mongering guys.

I'm going to stop posting until the insanity of the elections are done. Everyone is way too riled and partisan right now.

I don't think I remember you decrying fear mongering when the MTV time travel political commercial was posted. At least this is extrapolating observable facts about our current financial situation, rather than hyperbolized caricatures of politicians who aren't even running. So who's partisan?

*shrug*

Author:  DFK! [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Aizle wrote:
Eh, enjoy your fear mongering guys.

I'm going to stop posting until the insanity of the elections are done. Everyone is way too riled and partisan right now.

I don't think I remember you decrying fear mongering when the MTV time travel political commercial was posted. At least this is extrapolating observable facts about our current financial situation, rather than hyperbolized caricatures of politicians who aren't even running. So who's partisan?

*shrug*


Dude, he's a moderate. Don't get mad just because you can't defeat the well-poisoning. Nancy.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:30 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Aizle wrote:
Eh, enjoy your fear mongering guys.

I'm going to stop posting until the insanity of the elections are done. Everyone is way too riled and partisan right now.

I don't think I remember you decrying fear mongering when the MTV time travel political commercial was posted. At least this is extrapolating observable facts about our current financial situation, rather than hyperbolized caricatures of politicians who aren't even running. So who's partisan?

*shrug*


I don't recall seeing that one.

Author:  Khross [ Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:05 pm ]
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Do you honestly want to discuss the economics of this particular ad, Aizle?

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