MCALESTER, Okla. — Members of Topeka's Westboro Baptist Church found their tires slashed after a protest in eastern Oklahoma.

The group is know for picketing at the funerals of American servicemen with their anti-gay messages.

The Tulsa World reports after clashing with more than 1,000 counter protesters in McAlester, church members returned to find the front and rear wheels on the passenger side flat.

When church members tried to get the tires fixed, nearby businesses turned them away.

Eventually church members had to call for a tow truck to haul the van to a WalMart several miles away.

I wonder if the vandal would describe himself as a christian.

For that matter, would the shop-owners who refused service describe themselves as christians.

I just wonder.

For that matter, would the shop-owners who refused service describe themselves as christians.

I just wonder.

I don't approve of the vandalism, but I ahve no sympathy for the Westboro Baptist Church members.

I was criticized recently on this board for having a superficial understanding of christianity. So I watch how christians relate to each other, and to non-christians as well. The responses to a simple expression of curiosity is interesting.

That's a shame. I have all kinds of sympathy for the Westboro Baptist Church members. It goes right next to the pity.

They don't deserve to have their tires slashed. Because it's not ours to dish out judgement. Condemnation, sure. But vengeance is the Lord's, as it were.

It's interesting because this is not the only place I observe, but in roughly 8 posts I see more evidence of how I view christians, and I wonder if it is what god (if he exists at all) intended. It seems to me that christians are like pellets in an open bore shotgun- supposed to go in one direction, but as soon as you leave the barrel you're all over the place. A christian on this board has expressed delight (so I take the number of laughing faces in the original post) that another christian group was refused service in a time of need. And I don't see it here, only, you can see it lots of places.

I think, if I were god, I'd File 13 this bunch and start over.

The responses to a simple expression of curiosity is interesting.

(so I take the number of laughing faces in the original post) that another christian group was refused service in a time of need.

With what evidence do you attribute the vandalism to Christians?

No way to know as it stands, but interesting that you ask.

I don't attribute the vandalism to christians. i just wonder if the vandal(s) would so name themselves if asked. Maybe they are atheists. Or muslims. Or hindus. No way to know as it stands, but interesting that you ask.

That's a shame. I have all kinds of sympathy for the Westboro Baptist Church members. It goes right next to the pity.

They don't deserve to have their tires slashed. Because it's not ours to dish out judgement. Condemnation, sure. But vengeance is the Lord's, as it were.

I'm torn on this. On one hand, supporting their right to say terrible hurtful things is part of a free society and it's the price we pay. One I'm willing to pay as well. On the other, they are complete **** that deserve to get the holy living **** beat out of them.



We have every right to judge. We judge people every day. The issue is that there needs to be some structure behind it and predictability or you get chaos.

It's interesting because this is not the only place I observe, but in roughly 8 posts I see more evidence of how I view christians, and I wonder if it is what god (if he exists at all) intended. It seems to me that christians are like pellets in an open bore shotgun- supposed to go in one direction, but as soon as you leave the barrel you're all over the place. A christian on this board has expressed delight (so I take the number of laughing faces in the original post) that another christian group was refused service in a time of need. And I don't see it here, only, you can see it lots of places.

I think, if I were god, I'd File 13 this bunch and start over.

I don't attribute the vandalism to christians. i just wonder if the vandal(s) would so name themselves if asked. Maybe they are atheists. Or muslims. Or hindus. No way to know as it stands, but interesting that you ask.