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A Bully Finds a Pulpit on the Web
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Author:  Lex Luthor [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:48 pm ]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/busin ... l?_r=2&hpw

Fascinating read. I never realized you could abuse Google Pagerank like that. It reminds me of the quote, "All publicity is good publicity".

edit: Not sure why I put this in Hellfire.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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That was an interesting read. The guy's a first rate douchebag and I suspect his "success" will be shortlived.
Author:  Stathol [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:59 pm ]
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Aizle wrote:
That was an interesting read. The guy's a first rate douchebag and I suspect his "success" will be shortlived.

I suspect that he may be shortlived after that article. As the article points out, his home address is on the web page, and everyone who reads the NYT (which we assume includes a lot of New Yorkers...) now knows that he's got at least half a million in merchandise warehoused there. That's pretty much asking for a home invasion. I'm not sure that was entirely responsible journalism.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:01 pm ]
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True.

While I agree that it was not very responsible, I am reminded that Karma is indeed a *****.
Author:  Ladas [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:06 pm ]
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Can't read the article, its behind a membership area.
Author:  Lex Luthor [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:08 pm ]
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Ladas wrote:
Can't read the article, its behind a membership area.


I think this happens if you read too many nytimes articles. Delete your cookies or use a new browser.
Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:20 pm ]
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And people wonder why I'm so reluntant to shop online, even for a tech person.
Author:  Lenas [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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Shopping online is no more dangerous in practice than giving a server your credit card in a restaurant and, more often than not, more secure.

It's unfortunate that people are getting scammed by this guy, but do your homework first. Sometimes looking up consumer reviews or comments is the only way to tell if you're dining in a 5-star or a hole in the wall, so to speak.
Author:  RangerDave [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:58 pm ]
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Stories like this always make me reflect on how amazing/ridiculous it is that there aren't more effective anti-harassment laws. The behavior described in that article should be an obvious and clear-cut criminal matter.
Author:  Hopwin [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:02 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
Shopping online is no more dangerous in practice than giving a server your credit card in a restaurant and, more often than not, more secure.

It's unfortunate that people are getting scammed by this guy, but do your homework first. Sometimes looking up consumer reviews or comments is the only way to tell if you're dining in a 5-star or a hole in the wall, so to speak.


Bingo. Don't buy from somewhere/someone you've never heard of and if a deal sounds too good to be true don't click buy.
Author:  DFK! [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:40 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote:
Stories like this always make me reflect on how amazing/ridiculous it is that there aren't more effective anti-harassment laws. The behavior described in that article should be an obvious and clear-cut criminal matter.


I agree, to an extent.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:45 pm ]
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Making threats already is. I'm guessing that this case is just fairly far down the urgency list for the NYPD.
Author:  Lydiaa [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:10 pm ]
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"Buyer's beware" mentality should always be there, no matter where you're shopping imho
Author:  Hannibal [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:06 am ]
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RangerDave wrote:
Stories like this always make me reflect on how amazing/ridiculous it is that there aren't more effective anti-harassment laws. The behavior described in that article should be an obvious and clear-cut criminal matter.


Im positive that the consumer protection laws are adequate to protect consumers. As was demonstrated by the article, the people who need to escalate it failed, which would thwart any amount of laws that would get piled up. As to harrassment, i know NYC has extensive anti-harrassment laws. You can be cited for al?ost mundane behavior if a person "feels" threatened. Check out their anti stalking laws. Nice and vague on some points.

Simply put, a market correction is in order. To his kneecaps. Videotaped and posted online. Oh and buyer beware should always be the mindset of any shopping. Too good to be true usually is. Thats why Amazon does well- self policing. They dont need more regulations imposed to take care of their business, they do it themselves.
Author:  Rodahn [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:39 pm ]
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It strikes me, based on the article, that the guy himself is fairly average and not hard to get along with outside of the business sphere. But once you start tangoing with him at his job, he becomes a douche.

Also, yeah, some of the powers that be are not exactly owning up to their share of obligation. Shady business practices are one thing, but stalking and threatening your customers is criminal. Period.
Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:41 pm ]
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Rodahn wrote:
It strikes me, based on the article, that the guy himself is fairly average and not hard to get along with outside of the business sphere. But once you start tangoing with him at his job, he becomes a douche.

Also, yeah, some of the powers that be are not exactly owning up to their share of obligation. Shady business practices are one thing, but stalking and threatening your customers is criminal. Period.


It's apparently good business to piss people off enough that they start writing about you all over the web.
Author:  Midgen [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:05 pm ]
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It might be a good short-term business strategy, but something tells his eyeglass business won't be around long the way things are going for him.

Of course once this business has been run into the ground, he can just start a new venture, using an assumed name (or a friends name) and apply the same shady tactics.

Not only that, but I'm sure this will inspire copy-cats...
Author:  Lydiaa [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:11 pm ]
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I give him props for thinking out side... umm.. of the hexagon.

the stalking part, not so much.
Author:  Hopwin [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:27 pm ]
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This is my master plan too, google Hopwin is a Douche, I'm in the top three baby!
Author:  Vladimirr [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:39 pm ]
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New York Times wrote:
Google announced on Wednesday that it had changed the way it ranks search results so that unscrupulous merchants would find it harder to appear prominently in searches....


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/techn ... tml?src=me
Author:  Lenas [ Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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Arrested.

http://searchengineland.com/decormyeyes ... ogle-57921

Quote:
Just over a week ago, the New York Times introduced the world to Vitaly Borker, who boasted of being abusive to customers and claimed, inaccurately, that such behavior had a side benefit of producing good rankings in Google. Now another side benefit: Borker’s arrest.
Author:  Rodahn [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:33 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
Arrested.

http://searchengineland.com/decormyeyes ... ogle-57921

Quote:
Just over a week ago, the New York Times introduced the world to Vitaly Borker, who boasted of being abusive to customers and claimed, inaccurately, that such behavior had a side benefit of producing good rankings in Google. Now another side benefit: Borker’s arrest.


/Price is Right "You Lose" sound effect
Author:  Hannibal [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:57 am ]
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So it takes a newspaper article to get action on things like this? Awesome.
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