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I'm not interested in arguing with you.
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
http://www.nintendo.com/wii/netflix Quote: Now you can instantly watch TV shows & movies streaming from Netflix on your Wii™ console! Watch as often as you want, anytime you want with a Netflix unlimited membership for only $7.99 a month. Go to Netflix.com/Wii to start your FREE trial, or if your Wii console is connected to the Internet, simply download Netflix from the Wii Shop Channel and follow the directions. All Wii consoles are able to connect to the Internet as long as you have a broadband Internet connection, so what are you waiting for? Heard this on the radio so had to look it up. I think it's really unfair to ISP's like Comcast that spends millions setting up fiber-optic lines and routing networks. It's not right for a large company like Netflix to piggy-back on the ISP's for free and provide almost the same television service. Net neutrality should only go so far. If the ISP's don't make enough money, then our Internet connection speeds will stop growing. |
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| Author: | Mookhow [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
Netflix pays for the bandwidth they use streaming video out. They pay for licenses to stream tv shows and movies. They're not piggybacking anything for free. I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Whether those bits come from Netflix, Blizzard, Yahoo, Google, or the Glade Rebooted is no business of Comcast's. And I pay a lot more to Comcast every month than I do to Netflix. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:40 pm ] |
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Should YouTube have to pay Cox every time someone watches a video? Should Mookhow have to pay every time you load up the Glade? Should we get taxed extra every time someone streams a video from the White House website? |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
Mookhow wrote: Netflix pays for the bandwidth they use streaming video out. They pay for licenses to stream tv shows and movies. They're not piggybacking anything for free. I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Whether those bits come from Netflix, Blizzard, Yahoo, Google, or the Glade Rebooted is no business of Comcast's. And I pay a lot more to Comcast every month than I do to Netflix. I bet the end result will just be Comcast charging more for Internet and less for TV. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
Lex Luthor wrote: Mookhow wrote: Netflix pays for the bandwidth they use streaming video out. They pay for licenses to stream tv shows and movies. They're not piggybacking anything for free. I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Whether those bits come from Netflix, Blizzard, Yahoo, Google, or the Glade Rebooted is no business of Comcast's. And I pay a lot more to Comcast every month than I do to Netflix. I bet the end result will just be Comcast charging more for Internet and less for TV. So? Who cares? That's the market at work. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
Diamondeye wrote: Lex Luthor wrote: Mookhow wrote: Netflix pays for the bandwidth they use streaming video out. They pay for licenses to stream tv shows and movies. They're not piggybacking anything for free. I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Whether those bits come from Netflix, Blizzard, Yahoo, Google, or the Glade Rebooted is no business of Comcast's. And I pay a lot more to Comcast every month than I do to Netflix. I bet the end result will just be Comcast charging more for Internet and less for TV. So? Who cares? That's the market at work. It's actually the market + government at work. I'm just wondering if the government enforcing strong Net Neutrality is the right idea. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:49 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: Should YouTube have to pay Cox every time someone watches a video? I'm not really sure. But Cox would set up more cables and we could watch higher resolution videos online. It's also in their best interests not to destroy the Internet by controlling it too much. If Comcast charged them too much, Youtube would suffer, which leads to Comcast suffering as well. Quote: Should Mookhow have to pay every time you load up the Glade? Should we get taxed extra every time someone streams a video from the White House website? Obviously no to both. Net neutrality should definitely be enforced for small to medium-sized businesses and individuals. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:55 pm ] |
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Should you have to pay a higher toll if you're driving a pickup truck versus a car? |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:56 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: Should you have to pay a higher toll if you're driving a pickup truck versus a car? No, but you should if you're driving an 18-wheeler for your company. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:56 pm ] |
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Why? |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:58 pm ] |
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http://www.cabt.org/index.php?option=co ... &Itemid=32 Quote: Pavement damage increases exponentially with the weight of a truck. For example, one 80,000-pound five-axle truck does the same road damage as 9,600 automobiles and five-axle trucks operate well above 80,000 pounds in a number of states. A 100,000-pound five-axle truck does as much damage as more than 27,000 automobiles. This is why. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:02 pm ] |
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and if the toll road advertised a flat rate regardless of vehicle? Should Cox charge me more since I'm using a cable modem over dial-up? |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:48 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: and if the toll road advertised a flat rate regardless of vehicle? I'll use the PA Turnpike as an example. It's a private road. The State Police can tell you to get off the road and not come back on it. So if they decided to make a flat rate for all vehicles it's their business. I'd suspect that we would see less casual traffic and more commercial vehicles assuming the rate would be lower then for commercial and higher for passenger cars. Lenas wrote: Should Cox charge me more since I'm using a cable modem over dial-up? Absolutly. A cable modem has a lot more costs associated with it vs a dial up modem. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:50 pm ] |
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Until I see how it plays out, I'm going to assume that the Net Neutrality is going to play out in line with how the breakup of Ma Bell and the electric companies played out. |
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| Author: | shuyung [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:51 pm ] |
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Oh this is a conversation that can only develop in fascinating ways. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:23 pm ] |
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No, Level 3 (not Netflix) shouldn't have to pay. In fact I think it would be hilarious if they told Comcast to go screw themselves and see how their customers feel about it. I full support Comcasts right to ASK level 3 for more money, but I also don't think level3 should give it to them. Comcast is terminating that traffic on paying customers end points, not transiting it. More importantly, I'll be voting (against comcast) with my wallet an finding a different ISP. I've been wanting to tell them to take a hike for a long time. Now I'm just a lot more highly motivated to do it. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:26 pm ] |
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Comcast (XFinity) advertises that you can use their Internet service to stream TV, Videos, etc... I find it kind of ironic that they are charging their customers for the ability to do this, and also charging the providers for the 'right' to do it. More power to them if they can get away with it, but I won't be contributing to their shenanigans. |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:54 pm ] |
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I am still hoping Comcast suffers a massive case of can't stop crapping. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Does anyone else think Netflix should have to pay? |
Mookhow wrote: Netflix pays for the bandwidth they use streaming video out. They pay for licenses to stream tv shows and movies. They're not piggybacking anything for free. I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Whether those bits come from Netflix, Blizzard, Yahoo, Google, or the Glade Rebooted is no business of Comcast's. And I pay a lot more to Comcast every month than I do to Netflix. This This This |
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| Author: | shuyung [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:36 am ] |
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Midgen wrote: No, Level 3 (not Netflix) shouldn't have to pay. In fact I think it would be hilarious if they told Comcast to go screw themselves and see how their customers feel about it. Wrong. If Level3 didn't have to pay, they wouldn't. The fact that they are doing so suggests that the contract between Netflix and Level3 guarantees reachability into Comcast (probably among others). Mookhow wrote: I pay a monthly rate to Comcast to be able to send and receive bits on the internet. Wrong. You think that's what you're paying for, but it's not. https://www.comcast.com/MediaLibrary/1/ ... astcom.pdf http://www.comcast.com/termsofservice/termsHSI.html https://www.comcast.com/MediaLibrary/1/ ... ternet.pdf |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:01 am ] |
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Ok. I thought this over and I changed my mind regarding this issue and agree with anyone dissenting with me. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:17 am ] |
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Hey DE? I'm not interested in arguing with you. Here, entertain yourself with this for a while.
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:33 am ] |
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Midgen wrote: Hey DE? I'm not interested in arguing with you. Here, entertain yourself with this for a while. Hey Midgen? I haven't argued with you yet in this thread. You've fallen victim to Similar Avatar Syndrome. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:38 am ] |
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Bummmrrrrr... We obviously need a rule about similar avatars :p~ |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:16 pm ] |
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darksiege wrote: I am still hoping Comcast suffers a massive case of can't stop crapping. Sorry bro, but we're, er they're a levithan. Their noodly appendage extends into so many media outlets and products you can't help but feed them. Yes, I work for them, and I spend a lot of time in their ivory tower downtown. Btw anyone ***** about your rates- blame your local gov. They use the franchise fees like an atm. Raise it on Comcast, and they get it out of you. |
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