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Author: | Dash [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:09 am ] |
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In addition to walking out on two interviews, he's not happy with a lot of other people too: http://www.news.com.au/features/wikilea ... 5974366476 Spoiler: So for those who make the distinction between his exposing " the government" as opposed to individuals, where do you stand on this threat against the unnamed "bank boss" he is threatening to destroy? Is there any irony that he is upset about leaks to his rape case? |
Author: | Talya [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:11 am ] |
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Dash wrote: So for those who make the distinction between his exposing " the government" as opposed to individuals, where do you stand on this threat against the unnamed "bank boss" he is threatening to destroy? Big corps are no different than government. Quote: Is there any irony that he is upset about leaks to his rape case? He's upset about "selective leaks." He makes it sound as if the Guardian held back certain details in an attempt to make him look worse. |
Author: | Vindicarre [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:15 am ] |
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Ohh, he speaks of himself in third-person... Julian wrote: "The leak was clearly designed to undermine my bail application," he said. "Someone in authority clearly intended to keep Julian in prison." Douche Dash wrote: So for those who make the distinction between his exposing " the government" as opposed to individuals, where do you stand on this threat against the unnamed "bank boss" he is threatening to destroy? That crosses the line. He has tenuous footing exposing what he did, he has none with this type of crap. |
Author: | Screeling [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:35 am ] |
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He's trying to expose the Shadow Broker! |
Author: | Stathol [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:58 am ] |
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I find his tactics pretty unsavory. However ... Talya wrote: Big corps are no different than government. Considering that this a major bank, and has almost certainly been a party to the massive bailouts, I'm inclined in this case to agree with this statement quite literally. But it does depend on the nature of what he's leaking. If it's business-related, it's fair game. But if he's talking about ruining him in the sense of leaking information about his private affairs (pun intended), then that's a different matter. Talya wrote: He's upset about "selective leaks." He makes it sound as if the Guardian held back certain details in an attempt to make him look worse. That's the rhetoric, anyway. But it's worth pointing out that wikileaks isn't exactly in the business of leaking documents that paint the U.S. government in a merely boring, neutral, and/or positive light. So even if we buy the rhetoric about selective leaks, well... |
Author: | Talya [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:00 pm ] |
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I don't think Wikileaks selectively removed portions of the cables, omitting information in order to ensure a wholely negative opinion of the USA. |
Author: | Stathol [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:03 pm ] |
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I don't think so either. But had the cables not contained embarrassing info, do you think he would have leaked them at all? This is all I'm saying. |
Author: | Midgen [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:05 pm ] |
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It seems his stated purpose is to 'destroy' people. Seems a little unsavory to me... |
Author: | Stathol [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:12 pm ] |
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It depends. Some people should be destroyed. |
Author: | Midgen [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:17 pm ] |
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Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Does he take suggestions? |
Author: | Lex Luthor [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:20 pm ] |
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Midgen wrote: Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Does he take suggestions? He should destroy every single public official or executive who makes bad/criminal decisions that are detrimental to society. |
Author: | Stathol [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:25 pm ] |
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Midgen wrote: Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Not particularly. But then, it isn't really Assange who destroys them. The court of public opinion destroys them on he basis of their own actions. I don't trust Assange any more than I do the government. But to a significant extent, if you don't want to be destroyed by the likes of Assange, don't have any dirty laundry to air... |
Author: | Lex Luthor [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:27 pm ] |
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Stathol wrote: Midgen wrote: Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Not particularly. But then, it isn't really Assange who destroys them. The court of public opinion destroys them on he basis of their own actions. I don't trust Assange any more than I do the government. But to a significant extent, if you don't want to be destroyed by the likes of Assange, don't have any dirty laundry to air... He is destroying them, just like pulling your finger on a trigger of a gun results in a bullet flying at 2200 feet per second. |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:28 pm ] |
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Quote: Vice President Joe Biden recently called the WikiLeaks founder a "high-tech terrorist". No, he did not. I watched that interview. Quote: Speaking from the English mansion where he is confined on bail, the 39-year-old Australian said that the decision to publish incriminating police files about him was "disgusting". The Guardian had previously used him as its source for hundreds of leaked US embassy cables. haha |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:32 pm ] |
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Stathol wrote: Midgen wrote: Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Not particularly. But then, it isn't really Assange who destroys them. The court of public opinion destroys them on he basis of their own actions. I don't trust Assange any more than I do the government. But to a significant extent, if you don't want to be destroyed by the likes of Assange, don't have any dirty laundry to air... I agree with this. I haven't seen any evidence that he's manipulating the information and/or attempting to post it out of context. He's not destroying anyone anymore than a prosecutor convicts people. |
Author: | Midgen [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:46 pm ] |
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Stathol wrote: Midgen wrote: Are we trusting Julian Assange to decide who those people are? Not particularly. But then, it isn't really Assange who destroys them. The court of public opinion destroys them on he basis of their own actions. I don't trust Assange any more than I do the government. But to a significant extent, if you don't want to be destroyed by the likes of Assange, don't have any dirty laundry to air... I disagree with the assertion that the general public has much, if any influence over this. They (we?) are too busy in the shopping malls to be bothered with it. I bet if you walked up to 50 random people on the street (lets use the shopping mall?) and ask them who Julian Assange is, they would have no clue. And if they have heard of him, I think you would have to get seriously lucky to find even one who could accurately describe the details of exactly what happened, how he obtained the information, how it was released, what his goals and objectives are, and what any of it means. |
Author: | Stathol [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:38 pm ] |
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That may all be true, but I'm not sure why it matters. Ignoring (for the sake of argument) electoral college issues, a significant chunk of the populace doesn't bother to vote for president. That doesn't change the fact the the portion who do will wind up deciding who sits in the office. Even if 90% of the public gives no **** about the leaks, if you can turn the 10% who do against someone/something, well ... |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:01 pm ] |
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His persecution complex has posed to me an interesting rhetorical musing: if you become a big enough *******, you're not paranoid anymore because there ARE conspiracies out to get you. |
Author: | Aizle [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:09 pm ] |
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Heh, nice Kaffis. Yeah, whether you feel his actions are right or wrong, the guy is a first class ******* and egomaniac. |
Author: | Taskiss [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:35 pm ] |
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and apparently a hypocrite. |
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