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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:29 pm 
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http://www.gunslot.com/pictures/huge-ne ... ligibility

So we will soon see exactly whom has standing.

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So we will soon see exactly whom has standing.


It does not matter, Obama, McCain and Palin have already stolen the diamonds...

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So, how did it go, October 5 was last week?

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The date has been set at Jan 26th 2010......?

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Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, 2009 since Obama's attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday.


The hearing, not the trial date.

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Yay more birther nonsense.

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Monte wrote:
Yay more birther nonsense.



Do you read? Honestly I want to know because it seems you're more of a skimmer.

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Would be so kind as to put the article in a quote, please? I can't read it from work.

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HUGE NEWS! FEDERAL JUDGE Carter sets Trial Date for Obama's Eligibility!!!

The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010, just 4 1/2 months
from now!

I and many other concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing
today in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack
Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in
Chief.. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the
lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other
records that he has hidden from the American people.

Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal
today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, 2009 since Obama's
attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there
was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is
arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe
that. I guess Obama would prefer a "kangaroo court" instead of a
Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama's motion for
dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will
force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if
he has one).

The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that
this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved quickly so that
the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold
that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of
war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the
court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their
President!

The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything
they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter
would have none of it and cut them off several times.. Obama's
attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing
looking defeated and nervous.

Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution!!! The truth about
Barack Obama's eligibility will be known fairly soon - Judge Carter
practically guaranteed it!

Video from the press conference after the hearing coming soon.
Congratulations to plaintiffs attorney Dr. Orly Taitz! She did a
great job and won some huge victories today. She was fearless!

Jeff Schwilk, Founder
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109242

A California judge today scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010,
for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be
president based on questions over his qualifications under the
requirements of the U.S. Constitution.
If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge
David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute
have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys
working on the issue.
In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions
were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about
whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants,
which she had.


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Monte wrote:
Yay more birther nonsense.


What, exactly, is your problem with due process of law?

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I read it. This is the kind of stuff MSNBC will run as often as possible to paint "the right" as kooks. Similar to Fox running Code Pink people and 9/11 truthers.

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Rynar wrote:
Monte wrote:
Yay more birther nonsense.


What, exactly, is your problem with due process of law?


Assuming (as most of us do) that Obama is eligible to hold office, this "birther nonsense" can only be good for Obama supporters. If he is forced to show his birth certificate and prove his eligibility, it will finally put to rest these crazy ideas that he's somehow Kenyan and ineligible to hold the office to which he's been elected.

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Talya wrote:
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Monte wrote:
Yay more birther nonsense.


What, exactly, is your problem with due process of law?


Assuming (as most of us do) that Obama is eligible to hold office, this "birther nonsense" can only be good for Obama supporters. If he is forced to show his birth certificate and prove his eligibility, it will finally put to rest these crazy ideas that he's somehow Kenyan and ineligible to hold the office to which he's been elected.

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Exactly- there will finally be an end to the debate.

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Monte wrote:
Yay more birther nonsense.


What, exactly, is your problem with due process of law?


Assuming (as most of us do) that Obama is eligible to hold office, this "birther nonsense" can only be good for Obama supporters. If he is forced to show his birth certificate and prove his eligibility, it will finally put to rest these crazy ideas that he's somehow Kenyan and ineligible to hold the office to which he's been elected.


I am concerned exclusivly with the precedent. Constitutional law is in question here.

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Ditto Rynar here. I harbor no secret suspicion that we'll get to kick Obama out of office (even on the assumption that we *would*) because of this, but I still cheer it because it will set straight who *can* and *should* question eligibility so this sort of **** doesn't happen in the future. The way Obama's lawyers argued it (presumably for either expediency, to protect some other embarrassment some document turned up in discovery would uncover, to distract his opponents from what he was actually going to be *doing*, or simply because he doesn't like the notion that he's accountable to anybody) has left the entire process in an untenable state that I do not wish another election to be subject to.

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I hope we have an answer soon. It will be theraputic that this little edgy theory will finally be put to rest. I think it's a shame that our President has let this go on for so long, despite the political bonus of getting to call his opponents cooks and "birthers"


Unless of course we're wrong and he is really ineligiable. Then we have the problem of our lifes- perhaps the greatest legal crisis of US History- on our hands.

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If Obama is ruled ineligible and removed from office, will he have to give the Nobel back?

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I would think that even IF (big if) he didn't have an authentic birth certificate, that as prez he would have enough power and money to have one forged or something.
And if he didn't have one, how the heck would he have gotten this far?

Still kind of fun to entertain the notion though...

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He's already shown his authentic birth certificate, its been seen by several news organizations and independent fact checking organizations. I am anxiously waitging for the birther movement to be finally exposed as the fundamentally insane idiots that they are.

Sadly, I doubt that even when this court case is gone, they will drop their cospiracy theories. There are people who still believe the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered.

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Montegue:

No, he hasn't shown a Birth Certificate. He's shown a Certification of Live Birth. Those documents are not synonymous. The "short form" Certification, which is the document provided to FactCheck.org and other groups, is not the actual pen-and-paper long form filled by the hospital at his birth (sometimes called the "long form" Birth Certificate by the two sides of this issue). Most of these people want him to release the "long form".

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Khross - How can I not come to the conclusion that you are a Birther when you make such arguments? Hawaii went to an electronic records system and got rid of their hard copies. The only certificate he *can* acquire is a certificate of live birth. The Sec State of Hawaii confirmed its veracity, the birth announcement in the local paper confirms it's veraicty - what else do you need?

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Khross - How can I not come to the conclusion that you are a Birther when you make such arguments?
What argument did I make? I pointed out that the "birthers" want the long-form birth certificate and are unsatisfied with the short-form certification that Obama provided. Exactly what argument did I make?

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How can he satisfy their desire when the very certificate they want is no longer available to him? He has produced the only record he *can* produce.

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Montegue:

Don't ask me. Ask someone who actually believes anything about the situation matters except the bad precedent his lawyers have set.

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