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Author:  FarSky [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:45 pm ]
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http://m.cnn.com/primary/_e1NEH2-iXFnIYeMN5

Edit: 12 including.

Mod edit:
Updated post title.
Author:  Farther [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:54 pm ]
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Following this. Conflicting reports abound and things change on a regular basis (She's shot, then she's dead, then she's alive in critical condition and in surgery...) as one might expect at this point. Best wishes to her and her family, plus others who have been injured or killed there.
Author:  Micheal [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:04 pm ]
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Died in surgery at the latest unsubstantiated report. Gunman survived, but he'll never breathe free air again.
Author:  Corolinth [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:13 pm ]
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Link isn't working.
Author:  darksiege [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:42 pm ]
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my thoughts and prayers to those harmed and their families
Author:  Leshani [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:43 pm ]
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more unsubstantiated rumors
Gunman was Mexican Cartel

Can't get hold of any of my friends from the Pinal county sheriff's office
Author:  darksiege [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:51 pm ]
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...

If it was Mexican Cartel... I vote we pull ALL of our troops from Abroad home and annex Mexico, by force.
Author:  FarSky [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:03 pm ]
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Conflicting reports of Giffords' status. Some say dead, some say grave condition. Right-wingers' immediate assumption is that it was Mexican-related, left-wingers' assume unhinged Tea Partier. Lots of unsubstantiated stuff flying around.
Author:  Hannibal [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:14 pm ]
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FarSky wrote:
Conflicting reports of Giffords' status. Some say dead, some say grave condition. Right-wingers' immediate assumption is that it was Mexican-related, left-wingers' assume unhinged Tea Partier. Lots of unsubstantiated stuff flying around.



First news reports I read alluded to an execution style killing, ie one gunman walking up and shooting her in the head. As the story unfolded details have become clearer. I still haven't gotten a clear word on who did the shooting. Doesn't help things that Palin had put a crosshair on her location on that infamous map of hers.
Author:  Serienya [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:48 pm ]
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The gunman is reported to be a 22-year-old white male. His name and age are reported here: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7071IA20110108.

A federal judge is also reported to be one of the dead.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:20 pm ]
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Yeah, not to speculate, but it sounds like an unhinged tea partier at the moment.

He shot and killed at least one child.
Author:  Serienya [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:24 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Yeah, not to speculate, but it sounds like an unhinged tea partier at the moment.

He shot and killed at least one child.


I'd stop at just "unhinged".
Author:  Rynar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:28 pm ]
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Everyone has different line in the sand, and the farther the government (left and right) pushes, the more common this sort of thing is going to become.

Is it tragic? Absolutely.

Do I advocate it? Absolutely not.

But it becomes an unfortunate reality when people are bullied, lose everything (or atleast what they consider to be "everything"), and have a legitimate claim against those who caused that loss (or who support policy which caused the loss). We can all sit back and condem this, but the reality is that you reap what you sow; and American government has been sowing this for some time now. It would be foolish for those in power to blindly condem this without thinking about what it really represents.

My prayers go out to the families of the fallen. :(
Author:  Leshani [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:34 pm ]
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I think he was some kind of wing nut with his own agenda.
his you tube channel..Jared Lee Loughner
Classitup10's Channe
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u
Author:  Rynar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:39 pm ]
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Leshani wrote:
I think he was some kind of wing nut with his own agenda.
his you tube channel..Jared Lee Loughner
Classitup10's Channe
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u


I agree. But like I said, everyone has their own line in the sand, and nothing can be done to prevent it other than not crossing those lines.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:43 pm ]
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Serienya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Yeah, not to speculate, but it sounds like an unhinged tea partier at the moment.

He shot and killed at least one child.


I'd stop at just "unhinged".


That goes without saying. I'm just guessing at a motivation at the moment.
Author:  Rynar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:46 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Serienya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Yeah, not to speculate, but it sounds like an unhinged tea partier at the moment.

He shot and killed at least one child.


I'd stop at just "unhinged".


That goes without saying. I'm just guessing at a motivation at the moment.


He was anti-government. We no longer need to guess.
Author:  Farther [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:56 pm ]
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Doesn't the possibility exist that the real target was Judge Roll?
Author:  Serienya [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:00 pm ]
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Rynar wrote:
He was anti-government. We no longer need to guess.


But even that doesn't tell me anything. "Anti-government" feelings can come from the extreme left or extreme right.

Or are you gonna make me suffer through his YouTube videos to figure out where he was coming from? :)
Author:  Screeling [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:21 pm ]
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She's my Congress-critter. I don't like her, but I never wished this on her.
Author:  Midgen [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:26 pm ]
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Here is the suspected shooters 'Introduction' on youtube...
Author:  Serienya [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:44 pm ]
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"What he was was off his head." - Sondheim (from the musical Assassins)
Author:  darksiege [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:55 pm ]
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dude... that guy is **** up.

Hey by his logic... he is able to make a third **** youtube video.
Author:  SuiNeko [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:27 pm ]
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You have my sympathies guys. I am very grateful our political dialogue has yet to get to the state the loons latch on to it like this.
Author:  Serienya [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:22 pm ]
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Farther wrote:
Doesn't the possibility exist that the real target was Judge Roll?


Doesn't sound like it. From what I've read, he was just passing through while shopping and stopped to say hi to Rep. Giffords. (Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01 ... ral-judge/. Yes, I know it's Fox News.)
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