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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Egypt |
There's some big stuff going on there. Unlike Iran, it looks like the police might be willing to join in the unrest, as I've heard that several policemen have removed their uniforms and badges and joined the demonstrators. It just seems to have more momentum and purpose than the Iranian uprisings, for example, they've taken over police stations. It doe worrty me that The Muslim Brotherhood is getting more involved, though. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:35 pm ] |
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Yeah - I'm less concerned about the riots/revolution and more concerned about what rises up from the ashes. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:36 pm ] |
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You could say that the United States has similar circumstances. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egypt |
I wonder if Lieberman's "Internet Kill switch" bill will still pass after this. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:02 pm ] |
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Considering that we are seeing the end of a Mumbarak's tenure, and a highly probable "regime change" I doubt this will be a positive example for the IKS bill to show as a solution. Really, do you want to be annoyed by your dissidents making Internet posts or have them drag you out into the street and execute you for your crimes, the last one being shutting down the Internet and giving them even more proof of your despot behavior. That is a prediction by the way. Mubarak's time is over, he will either flee the country or be overthrown and executed or assassinated shortly. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:09 pm ] |
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... switch.php |
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| Author: | Talya [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:21 pm ] |
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FarSky wrote: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/joe-lieberman-and-the-myth-of-the-internet-kill-switch.php Yeah, that was my understanding of it, too. The president already has an "internet kill switch." Lieberman's bill would limit its scope and power. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:41 pm ] |
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Screeling wrote: Yeah - I'm less concerned about the riots/revolution and more concerned about what rises up from the ashes. Ditto, I've heard everyday people in Egypt express the opinion that between Mubarak and the Muslim Brotherhood, they'd choose "Mubarak, no question, even though he's a thug". |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:48 pm ] |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:32 pm ] |
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They should unplug their router, wait 60 seconds and plug it back in. |
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| Author: | Dash [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:17 pm ] |
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I know someone living there. Her facebook and twitter were down and now she apparently cant use the internet at all unless she's just not posting. |
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| Author: | Aegnor [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:07 pm ] |
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This could be bad. It could end up turning out like Iran's revolution did. That revolution had liberals and secularists in it too. How long did they last once the revolution was accomplished? Egypt in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood would NOT be a good thing. |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
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I still think we should just turn to Israel and tell them... wait for it..... and then when the smoke settles... "Go get 'em guys..." |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:21 pm ] |
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I don't exactly think a destabilized Gaza is something the world's economies need right now. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egypt |
Israel is already a liability to the United States. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:11 am ] |
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This is only going to turn out bad. A dictatorship propped up and tamed by the U.S. is better than a theocratic republic like Iran. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:46 am ] |
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All the more reason to be out of their business. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:11 pm ] |
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Maybe we can save the $1.3 billion in foreign aid we give them if they have a regime change. Sorry man, that deal was with Mubarak's government, you want to talk? |
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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egypt |
And of course it's all Bush's fault. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... d-iraq-war |
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| Author: | Amanar [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egypt |
I think people everywhere have a right to protest against an unjust government, and if necessary, rise in arms against them. Mubarak's regime has already given their response to the demands of the people, and they obviously are not interested in reform. Their response to the protests with their security forces has already proven this, and Mubarak's speech last night sealed the deal. Supporting Mubarak in any way is no longer acceptable. I think we've come past that point. He's had plenty of chance to respond and hasn't done so. I agree with the Obama administration's neutral stance so far. It would have been hasty to choose a side, particularly when one is a close ally. But the time has come for Obama to denounce Mubarak and withdraw any US support for him. I think it is wrong to support dictators who crush the will of the people and violate their fundamental rights. Especially when the people have made it clear that they are not backing down. We can't just sit idly by while Mubarak let's the country descend into chaos. And I realize a lot of you are concerned about what will replace the dictatorship, but I don't think that's our concern. That's for the people of Egypt to worry about. If the new government is worse, they should rise up again. They're their own country, they should make their own decisions. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Egypt |
The problem is when they come knocking on the door of our allies with tanks or refuse to let our ships though the Suez because we are the Great Satan. Plus if someone's been your friend for 30 years and your worst enemy wants to kill him do you overlook his character flaws and help him or not? |
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| Author: | Amanar [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:28 pm ] |
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The Egyptian people are our worst enemy? |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:36 pm ] |
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No but Islamic Fascists are. I don't see how this things out any differently than Iran where the hardliners use it come into power. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:41 pm ] |
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Iran calls for restraint in Egypt Quote: TEHRAN, Jan. 29 (UPI) -- Saying it is closely monitoring developments in Egypt, Iranian officials asked Egypt's government to exercise restraint while working to solve the crisis. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast urged Egyptian officials to ensure the lawful rights of citizens to organize and voice their concerns about the government, Fars News Agency reported. Egypt's government has cut off Internet access and cell phone services. Military vehicles were present on the streets of Cairo Friday after violent skirmishes between police and demonstrators.  In the universe the rest of us live in: Al Jazeera Live |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:25 pm ] |
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Images of a looted museum in Egypt: http://imgur.com/a/1X8e1 It's a good thing the British have most of their art. The Egyptians don't deserve to have nice things. |
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