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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Planned Parent hood. |
In the same vein as the ACORN video's a undercover couple has gotten planned parent hood to advice pimps to attain abortions for under age sex slaves. Even following the same pattern of accusation, counter accusation, excuse. http://bigjournalism.com/sswift/2011/02 ... ore-166744 http://bigjournalism.com/lrose/2011/02/ ... ore-167048 |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:10 pm ] |
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I don't see what the big deal is. It's just advice, right? |
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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:16 pm ] |
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advising some one how to break the law, and not reporting suspected child sex trafficking? |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:24 pm ] |
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Uncle Fester wrote: advising some one how to break the law, and not reporting suspected child sex trafficking? So? If you're not the government or contractually bound you can say whatever you want. They were probably offering logical and good advice. I still don't see what the big deal is. You're not obligated to report any crime, much less suspected crime. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:45 pm ] |
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Lex Luthor wrote: Uncle Fester wrote: advising some one how to break the law, and not reporting suspected child sex trafficking? So? If you're not the government or contractually bound you can say whatever you want. They were probably offering logical and good advice. I still don't see what the big deal is. You're not obligated to report any crime, much less suspected crime. Yeah. No. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Planned Parent hood. |
Regardless of whether giving the advice is a crime or not, or even whether it should eb a crime, it's still appalling. It most likely is legal to give purely hypothetical advice on how to keep sex slaves free of pregnancy. It's also utterly reprehensible, and the public should be aware of activities like this in a prominent social organization in that field. That's the big **** deal, Lex. You should have been able to figure that out by yourself. No, it doesn't matter what flimsy excuse for why it still shouldn't be a big deal you'll come up with next so that you can troll some more. Society sets standards like that, and they aren't obligated to listen to your blathering. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:53 pm ] |
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Giving someone advice is not appalling. It's just words. It's easy to trick people into saying the wrong thing by making up bizarre scenarios. Planned Parenthood didn't do anything wrong, in fact they didn't do anything at all except talk. Their job is to help people stop unwanted pregnancies, not to be a watchdog for the government. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Planned Parent hood. |
Would you give them money knowing they offer such advice? |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Planned Parent hood. |
Rorinthas wrote: Would you give them money knowing they offer such advice? I wouldn't give them money anyways... |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Planned Parent hood. |
Lex Luthor wrote: Rorinthas wrote: Would you give them money knowing they offer such advice? I wouldn't give them money anyways... Um... you already do. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Planned Parent hood. |
Rynar wrote: Lex Luthor wrote: Rorinthas wrote: Would you give them money knowing they offer such advice? I wouldn't give them money anyways... Um... you already do. No I don't. Maybe you meant a different word? Quote: give
- 14 dictionary results give /gɪv/ Show Spelled [giv] Show IPA verb, gave, giv·en, giv·ing, noun –verb (used with object) 1. to present voluntarily and without expecting compensation; bestow: to give a birthday present to someone. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:38 am ] |
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Nope. The word I chose was accurate. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:39 am ] |
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Rynar wrote: Nope. The word I chose was accurate. I don't voluntarily transfer money to Planned Parenthood. So I do not give them money. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:42 am ] |
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Lex Luthor wrote: Rynar wrote: Nope. The word I chose was accurate. I don't voluntarily transfer money to Planned Parenthood. So I do not give them money. You may be in denial about it, but it's still true. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:44 am ] |
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Rynar wrote: Lex Luthor wrote: Rynar wrote: Nope. The word I chose was accurate. I don't voluntarily transfer money to Planned Parenthood. So I do not give them money. You may be in denial about it, but it's still true. Whatever. You give money to terrorists because it is taken from you through taxes which pays for roads that is used for commerce that eventually reaches terrorists. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:17 pm ] |
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Lex Luthor wrote: Whatever. You give money to terrorists because it is taken from you through taxes which pays for roads that is used for commerce that eventually reaches terrorists. This is true. It's important to know this, so that you can understand the implications your representatives policies have. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Planned Parent hood. |
Arathain Kelvar wrote: Lex Luthor wrote: Whatever. You give money to terrorists because it is taken from you through taxes which pays for roads that is used for commerce that eventually reaches terrorists. This is true. It's important to know this, so that you can understand the implications your representatives policies have. Exactly. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:04 pm ] |
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It's still not done "voluntarily," unless you define anything that you're not willing to die to prevent yourself from doing as a voluntary action. You're basically claiming that if you get mugged and hand over your wallet that you did so voluntarily and that it's your own fault that you're now out said wallet. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:09 pm ] |
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Xequecal wrote: It's still not done "voluntarily," unless you define anything that you're not willing to die to prevent yourself from doing as a voluntary action. You're basically claiming that if you get mugged and hand over your wallet that you did so voluntarily and that it's your own fault that you're now out said wallet. In a Democracy, we're all Ceasar. You don't have to like it, and you may be in denial, but in America taxes are voluntary. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:42 am ] |
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Lex Luthor wrote: Giving someone advice is not appalling. It's just words. It's easy to trick people into saying the wrong thing by making up bizarre scenarios. Planned Parenthood didn't do anything wrong, in fact they didn't do anything at all except talk. Their job is to help people stop unwanted pregnancies, not to be a watchdog for the government. No one said anything abotu them being a watchdog for the government, and yes, what advice they gave is appalling, by the standards of society. Society, not you, is who determines what is appalling, so you're just **** out of luck. If you don't agree, go find some society that has different standards. Hopefully they won't have internet and we'll be spared your idiotic ramblings. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Planned Parent hood. |
Rynar wrote: Xequecal wrote: It's still not done "voluntarily," unless you define anything that you're not willing to die to prevent yourself from doing as a voluntary action. You're basically claiming that if you get mugged and hand over your wallet that you did so voluntarily and that it's your own fault that you're now out said wallet. In a Democracy, we're all Ceasar. You don't have to like it, and you may be in denial, but in America taxes are voluntary. I'd like it if my taxes are voluntary, but I really don't see how that is in current dynamic. Everyone who has tried that defense has gone to jail. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:10 am ] |
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I guess they mean voluntary as in if you elect to have no taxes taken out automatically, you don't "have" to write them a check. Of course that gets you into prison which then automatically deducts for you. |
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| Author: | Serienya [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:14 pm ] |
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From what I'd seen about this, Planned Parenthood notified the FBI and warned its offices of these people and issued a press release before the videos were released. For example, see the story here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... 04083.html |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:32 pm ] |
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Lies. Planned Parenthood is an evil organization that murders babies. They're clearly at fault for whatever wrongdoing just occurred - and there was most definitely wrongdoing taking place. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:40 pm ] |
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Corolinth wrote: Lies. Planned Parenthood is an evil organization that murders babies. They're clearly at fault for whatever wrongdoing just occurred - and there was most definitely wrongdoing taking place. Well, the fact that they would need to pre-warn their offices not to engage and offer pro-abortive advice to these dupes sort of leads to the conclusion that the central office was planning around that reality if it had not been addressed. The fact that the involved the FBI reeks, quite frankly. |
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