Sorry, not a big fan of euthanasia.

There's a difference between euthanasia and suicide. I'll leave you to figure it out ...

Her baby had virtually no chance of survival. And if she lived, she would be severely disabled.

This is where I find it gets into trouble. I don't think it's her right to decide what quality of life is acceptable.

"Our hands were tied," Danielle Deaver said. "The outcome of my pregnancy, that choice was made by God. I feel like how to handle the end of my pregnancy, that choice should have been mine, and it wasn't because of a law."

This is where I find it gets into trouble. I don't think it's her right to decide what quality of life is acceptable.

"The outcome of my pregnancy, that choice was made by God. I feel like how to handle the end of my pregnancy, that choice should have been mine, and it wasn't because of a law."

Without amniotic fluid around the fetus, the infant would likely be born with contractures, a shortening of muscle tissue that causes an inability to move limbs. Because the skull of the fetus was still soft, the muscles in the mother's uterus would likely cause deformities to its face and head. It also was unlikely the baby's lungs would develop beyond the 22-week stage, when Danielle's water broke.

...They asked the perinatologist a question no parent wants to ask: At what point do parents who are willing to do anything to save a child turn selfish by putting the child through what seemed to them like torture? There was less than a 10 percent chance their child would have a heartbeat and be able to breathe on its own. There was an even smaller chance - estimated at 2 percent - that the baby would ultimately be able to perform the most basic functions on its own, such as eating.

It's pathetic to me that people aren't willing to afford our own species the same courtesy that we provide to dogs.

If you found a dog in anything close to similar a situation that this child was going to be in, most anyone would provide it a mercy killing to put it out of it's misery.

Not what I said, but I wasn't expecting you to be able to understand what I said anyway.

Arathain reads it and thinks it was a choice of convenience.

**** you you stupid piece of ****. **** baby killer. I hope your stupid *** never has kids, would be the worst thing for that child.

Since when is eugenic euthanasia a courtesy?

Since when is eugenic euthanasia a courtesy?

It isn't, but this isn't really about eugenics, it's really a quality of life issue.

Beyond that, we have Aizle talking about abortion as a mercy killing the same as it is for an already dying dog? Far be it for me to suggest anything is beyond the pale, but I'm fairly certain Aizle just rocket jumped past the point of propriety.

Considering Nitefox has recently lost two children to similar complications, I'd say the only person being totally disrespectful here is Aizle. It seems to me that despite the difficulty of the decision, Nitefox and LadyKate arrived at the most humane and appropriate conclusion possible: they could no longer attempt to have children. I can't even pretend to understand the pain and gravity of that decision. Yet, we have the woman mentioned in the original post ...

The fact that the woman mentioned in the original post miscarried 4 times prior over the same complication that ultimately ended this child's life indicates that she is biologically incapable of producing a healthy baby. It was the height of selfishness and arrogance to assume she could have a child successfully; and it is the height of monstrosity to abort a child that may or may not survive and may or may not suffer from debilitating conditions due to one's own inability to reproduce.

Beyond that, we have Aizle talking about abortion as a mercy killing the same as it is for an already dying dog? Far be it for me to suggest anything is beyond the pale, but I'm fairly certain Aizle just rocket jumped past the point of propriety.