The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:09 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:37 am 
Offline
Home of the Whopper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:51 am
Posts: 6098
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41994697/ns/health-pregnancy/
Quote:
By Mike Stobbe

updated 3/9/2011 6:30:02 PM ET

ATLANTA — The price of preventing preterm labor is about to go through the roof.
A drug for high-risk pregnant women has cost about $10 to $20 per injection. Next week, the price shoots up to $1,500 a dose, meaning the total cost during a pregnancy could be as much as $30,000.
That's because the drug, a form of progesterone given as a weekly shot, has been made cheaply for years, mixed in special pharmacies that custom-compound treatments that are not federally approved.

But recently, KV Pharmaceutical of suburban St.Louis won government approval to exclusively sell the drug, known as Makena (Mah-KEE'-Nah). The March of Dimes and many obstetricians supported that because it means quality will be more consistent and it will be easier to get.
None of them anticipated the dramatic price hike, though — especially since most of the cost for development and research was shouldered by others in the past.
"That's a huge increase for something that can't be costing them that much to make. For crying out loud, this is about making money," said Dr. Roger Snow, deputy medical director for Massachusetts' Medicaid program.
"I've never seen anything as outrageous as this," said Dr. Arnold Cohen, an obstetrician at Albert Einstein Medical Center in Philadelphia.
"I'm breathless," said Dr. Joanne Armstrong, the head of women's health for Aetna, the Hartford-based national health insurer.
Doctors say the price hike may deter low-income women from getting the drug, leading to more premature births. And it will certainly be a huge financial burden for health insurance companies and government programs that have been paying for it.
The cost is justified to avoid the mental and physical disabilities that can come with very premature births, said KV Pharmaceutical chief executive Gregory J. Divis Jr. The cost of care for a preemie is estimated at $51,000 in the first year alone.
"Makena can help offset some of those costs," Divis told The Associated Press. "These moms deserve the opportunity to have the benefits of an FDA-approved Makena."
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is not involved in setting the price for the drugs it approves.
A KV subsidiary, Ther-Rx Corp., will market the drug. On Tuesday, Ther-RX announced a patient assistance program designed to help uninsured and low-income women get the drug at little or no cost.
But Snow and others said someone is going to have to pay the higher price. Some of the burden will fall on health insurance companies, which will have to raise premiums or other costs to their other customers. And some will fall on cash-strapped state Medicaid programs, which may be forced to stop paying for the drug or enroll fewer people.
"There's no question they can't afford this," said Matt Salo, executive director of the National Association of Medicaid Directors.
Salo and Snow said they do not know how many state Medicaid programs currently pay for Makena, which as a generic was recommended by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
Aetna will continue to pay for the drug, Armstrong said, but it will be an expensive pill to swallow. Aetna currently covers it for about 1,000 women a year, so the new federal endorsement is likely to cost an estimated $30 million more each year.
Makena is a synthetic form of the hormone progesterone that first came on the market more than 50 years ago to treat other problems. Hormone drugs came under fire in the 1970s, following reports they might damage fetuses in early pregnancy. In the 1990s, the early incarnation of Makena was withdrawn from the market.
But the drug got a new life in 2003, with publication of a study that reported it helped prevent early births to women who had a history of spontaneous preterm deliveries.
These very early births produce children who — if they survive — need months of intensive care and often suffer disabilities. The cause of sudden preterm delivery is not understood, but it occurs in black mothers at much higher rates than whites or Hispanics.
The study of women at risk for this condition found that only about 36 percent of those given the progesterone drug had preterm births, compared with 55 percent among those not on the drug.
It's believed the treatment calms the muscles of the uterus, experts said.
There is no good alternative in most cases and in the years following the study, more obstetricians, Medicaid programs and others began prescribing it. By some estimates, about 130,000 women a year might benefit from the drug. Only a fraction of them get it, but the number has been growing steadily.
One success story is Beatrice Diaz, 33, of Chapel Hill, N.C.
During her first pregnancy nine years ago, Diaz unexpectedly went into labor at about 24 weeks. She delivered a son, Garrison, who was so fragile she was not allowed to hold him for a month. Today he is in a wheelchair and has the mental capacity of a 9-month-old.
It was a shock, said Diaz, who at the time was a legal assistant in a prosecutor's office.
"Honestly I thought the only people who had 1-pound babies were crackheads," she said.
When she became pregnant again, her doctor prescribed the progesterone drug, a weekly injection that starts as early as the 16th week and may be given for as much as 20 weeks. She has since had two healthy, full-term baby girls, Hailyn and Alexa.
Diaz said she's not planning to have any more children — and that's a good thing.
"That's an insane amount of money. I don't know what I would do to get the money to afford it."
The Ther-Rx patient assistance program promises free injections or much reduced prices based on income. Uninsured households making less than $100,000 are eligible for a copay of $20 or less.

Ther-Rx and its parent company became involved about three years ago and acquired rights to the drug from a Massachusetts company named Hologic Inc., said Divis, who is also Ther-Rx's president.
To get FDA approval, the company is spending hundreds of millions of dollars in additional research, including an international study involving 1,700 women, Divis said. The FDA last month signed off and gave Makena orphan drug status. That designation ensures Ther-Rx will be the sole source of the drug for seven years.
The March of Dimes, which gets hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding from Ther-Rx, celebrated the approval in a press release, saying if all women eligible for the shots receive them, nearly 10,000 spontaneous premature births could be prevented each year.
"For the first time, we have an FDA-approved treatment to offer women who have delivered a baby too soon, giving them hope that their next child will have a better chance at a healthy start in life," said Dr. Alan Fleischman, the organization's medical director.
As for the cost, he said the drug maker's financial assistance program will ensure no eligible woman is denied the drug due to inability to pay.
Some doctors said they were happy getting the cheaper version from compounding pharmacies, and Aetna's Armstrong said she was unaware of any quality concerns.
Still, doctors will use the Ther-Rx brand, in part because of legal worries.
Not that they have a choice: Last month, KV sent cease-and-desist letters to compounding pharmacies, telling them they could face FDA enforcement actions if they kept making the drug.



This is absolutely terrible. I have friends who need this to get through their pregnancies....one friend who is going to try and buy all 20 shots she needs for her pregnancy on Monday while she still can. The implications of this price hike are unreal.

_________________
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:49 pm
Posts: 3455
Location: St. Louis, MO
And many more people learn about the Law of Unintended Consequences.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:18 am 
Offline
Evil Bastard™
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 am
Posts: 7542
Location: Doomstadt, Latveria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchicine

Here's an ancient remedy that just got a 7 year exclusivity agreement from the FDA. The price per pill went from 0.09 to 4.85

Aspirin is also likely to be given an exclusivity agreement in the near future.

_________________
Corolinth wrote:
Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:49 pm 
Offline
Grrr... Eat your oatmeal!!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:07 pm
Posts: 5073
this is what happens when the government is involved with healthcare.

_________________
Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:33 pm 
Offline
Doom Patrol
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:31 am
Posts: 1145
Location: The subtropics
I would never have existed if this had been in place when my mother was pregnant with me.

_________________
Memento Vivere

I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:36 am
Posts: 3083
darksiege wrote:
this is what happens when the government is involved with healthcare corporate lobbyists.

Fixed that for ya.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:28 pm 
Offline
Home of the Whopper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:51 am
Posts: 6098
Squirrel Girl wrote:
I would never have existed if this had been in place when my mother was pregnant with me.


I'm glad you exist. :)
Sadly, there will be a lot of babies who will cease to exist because of this.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:55 pm 
Offline
Doom Patrol
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:31 am
Posts: 1145
Location: The subtropics
RangerDave wrote:
darksiege wrote:
this is what happens when the government is involved with healthcare corporate lobbyists.

Fixed that for ya.


No, DS had it right. Our government gave them this power. Lobbyists merely reap the reward for it.

_________________
Memento Vivere

I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:05 pm 
Offline
Grrr... Eat your oatmeal!!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:07 pm
Posts: 5073
RangerDave wrote:
darksiege wrote:
this is what happens when the government is involved with healthcare corporate lobbyists.

Fixed that for ya.


You didn't fix a damn thing. Regardless of lobbyists, the government should have stayed out of it. But since they are all corrupt scum sucking bottom feeders worthy of nothing but contempt and scorn... they cannot let the market sort itself out.

_________________
Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:44 pm
Posts: 2315
darksiege wrote:
RangerDave wrote:
darksiege wrote:
this is what happens when the government is involved with healthcare corporate lobbyists.

Fixed that for ya.


You didn't fix a damn thing. Regardless of lobbyists, the government should have stayed out of it. But since they are all corrupt scum sucking bottom feeders worthy of nothing but contempt and scorn... they cannot let the market sort itself out.


The government can't "stay out of it" in general, medical research doesn't happen at all without a government granting exclusivity or some other kind of benefit to the researcher.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:49 pm
Posts: 3455
Location: St. Louis, MO
First, what research is involved in the two referenced exclusivity grants?

Second, I think you're confusing patent exclusivity with production and distribution exclusivity.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:44 pm
Posts: 2315
shuyung wrote:
First, what research is involved in the two referenced exclusivity grants?

Second, I think you're confusing patent exclusivity with production and distribution exclusivity.


I'm not saying that what is described in the article is OK, it's not, but the general sentiment that "the government should get out of this whole thing completely" just doesn't work here.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:14 pm 
Offline
Grrr... Eat your oatmeal!!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:07 pm
Posts: 5073
Xequecal wrote:
The government can't "stay out of it" in general, medical research doesn't happen at all without a government granting exclusivity or some other kind of benefit to the researcher.


so... meds like the before mentioned Colchicine: That has been in use for how long? But now they are suddenly being given exclusivity... why? It has not been researched by one **** person, but now one group is being given exclusive rights to distribute...

It is because some cocksucker in DC lined his pockets, no other reason. And for the betrayal of his constituents to the desires of the lobbyists, he should be recalled and removed from office, then publicly humiliated. I care not for what party he is.

The government does in fact need to but the hell out. We should not be giving out grant money to research at all right now. We are **** broke.

_________________
Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:09 pm 
Offline
adorabalicious
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 am
Posts: 5094
Xequecal wrote:
The government can't "stay out of it" in general, medical research doesn't happen at all without a government granting exclusivity or some other kind of benefit to the researcher.



Good thing government pioneered our discovery of antibiotics...oh.

_________________
"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 am
Posts: 4922
Elmarnieh wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
The government can't "stay out of it" in general, medical research doesn't happen at all without a government granting exclusivity or some other kind of benefit to the researcher.



Good thing government pioneered our discovery of antibiotics...oh.


Nowadays advances in medicinal technology require much more than a smart guy with rudimentary equipment and lots of time on his hands.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:42 am 
Offline
Grrr... Eat your oatmeal!!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:07 pm
Posts: 5073
At least these people are not parapalegic dwarves who had their faces catch on fire during a colonoscopy.

_________________
Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:58 am 
Offline
pbp Hack
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:45 pm
Posts: 7585
Lex Luthor wrote:
Elmarnieh wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
The government can't "stay out of it" in general, medical research doesn't happen at all without a government granting exclusivity or some other kind of benefit to the researcher.



Good thing government pioneered our discovery of antibiotics...oh.


Nowadays advances in medicinal technology require much more than a smart guy with rudimentary equipment and lots of time on his hands.

Just requires more smart guys with more advanced equipment and more time on their hands.

_________________
I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 307 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group