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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The New York Federal Reserve Bank confirmed that it intervened in currency markets on Friday for the first time in more than a decade.

The disclosure came a day after the Group of Seven major industrialized nations pledged in a statement to join in a coordinated effort to weaken the Japanese yen. The yen has surged in the last week to post-war record levels following the Japanese earthquake and tsunami.

A spokesman at the New York Fed, which operates as the agent of the U.S. Treasury in currency operations, confirmed that it had intervened. The last time the U.S. government intervened in currency markets was the fall of 2000 when it sold dollars and bought euros to bolster the fledgling European currency.

The spokesman refused to provide any details on the amounts of the intervention or what currencies were involved.

A stronger yen threatened to deal another blow to the fragile Japanese economy by depressing the country's exports.

In morning trading in New York on Friday, a dollar was buying 81.30 yen, up from 79.05 yen late Thursday and moving off its postwar low of 76.32 yen hit on Wednesday. Before the earthquake struck, one dollar bought 83.02 yen.

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I miss when it was around 120 yen to the dollar in 2004-2005.

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I'm going to admit that I know jack **** about this. Is this good or bad?

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This is like OJ publishing his If I Did It Book.

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A stronger yen threatened to deal another blow to the fragile Japanese economy by depressing the country's exports?

**** you. Just **** you. The Federal Reserve just kicked Japan while they were down.

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The Japan situation makes me convinced I will never understand economics, especially since economists are saying that the earthquake is actually going to benefit Japan's economy as it employs previously unemployed people to clean up the devastation. I don't really know how that's supposed to work, maybe we should wish for an earthquake over here to fix our economy.


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Hopwin wrote:
How's that Coro?
Allow me to illustrate with an example.

You're dating this woman, and things are going remarkably well. She's just a joy to be around. Then, I roll up on you, shoot her nine times in the head, and jack you for your car and your wallet. The next day, I call you up on the phone and tell you that I just did you a favor, because that woman you were dating was infected with HIV.

Maybe I did do you a favor. Maybe I didn't. That was for you to decide, and not me. Also, maybe I'm lying about her having HIV. Regardless, you're still minus one car and one girlfriend. I'm still all kinds of son of a ***** and mother ****.

Now suppose I do that to you after you just got laid off from your job. That really wouldn't make the car-jacking and murder any worse, but you'd be looking to kill me.

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What's missing from your analogy is whether or not I asked you to do that. Correct me if I am wrong but Japan is part of the G7 referenced above.

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Xequecal wrote:
The Japan situation makes me convinced I will never understand economics, especially since economists are saying that the earthquake is actually going to benefit Japan's economy as it employs previously unemployed people to clean up the devastation. I don't really know how that's supposed to work, maybe we should wish for an earthquake over here to fix our economy.



Its not, they are using the broken window fallacy. In other words they are people who don't understand economics but only regurgitate what their professors taught them.

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Xequecal wrote:
The Japan situation makes me convinced I will never understand economics, especially since economists are saying that the earthquake is actually going to benefit Japan's economy as it employs previously unemployed people to clean up the devastation. I don't really know how that's supposed to work, maybe we should wish for an earthquake over here to fix our economy.

This article gives a fairly broad overview of the topic:

JAPAN is in tragic disarray after last week's massive earthquake and subsequent tsunami. Nature may be cruelly unpredictable, but people are just cruel. Every time there is a catastrophe abroad, American opinionators use the prospect of reconstruction as an opportunity to conduct a proxy debate over fiscal stimulus and economic fundamentals. So, like clockwork, some benighted folks started talking up the potential economic gains from Japan's disaster, causing a rubber ball to fall down a tube into a pail, which overflowed, splling water down a chute, which turned a little water-wheel, which rang a little bell, startling libertarian economics professors into lecturing us about "the broken windows fallacy".

Now, I believe the fallacy is indeed a fallacy, and I find the idea that Japan might somehow gain from this bout of terrifying havoc and mass death both ridiculous and disgustingly Panglossian. But, really, this isn't about us, and I've grown weary of playing a part in the rote broken-windows Punch and Judy show. Much more pertinent and interesting is the fascinating, lively, empirically-informed academic literature on the economic effects of disasters, which I was reading up on last night. Alas, the New York Times' Binyamin Appelbaum beat me to the punch, providing a short overview of some recent research that finds that disasters have no long-term affect on GDP. This excellent 2008 Boston Globe article by Drake Bennett offers a more comprehensive summary.

By far the boldest claim, advanced in this 2002 paper by Mark Skidmore of the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and Hideki Toya of Nagoya City University in Japan, is that some disasters can boost GDP by forcing upgrades in technology and infrastructure, and offering the opportunity for critical reappraisal of ingrained modes of economic activity, leading to a higher level of productivity and, eventually, to net gains in growth. They find that this holds for some weather-related disasters, but not for geological disasters. They find persistent, long-run negative effects for geological catastrophe, suggesting any upside from Japan's earthquake and tsunami is unlikely. The argument of this paper, which is as strong as the disaster-bonus case gets, is a touchstone for a good deal of later research.


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So what I'm taking away from this is Hopwin now has the hivvy.

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Anyone who thinks a devastating earthquake can help an economy is a total moron. People have to rebuild things instead of spending their time being productive elsewhere.


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Screeling wrote:
So what I'm taking away from this is Hopwin now has the hivvy.

now?

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