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Same reason pot is illegal and gay marriage stays banned, because God says they're evil. (Not really, but that's what most people who tow this line believe) A good number of people also believe that any woman working as a prostitute is being somehow forced/coerced, or is insane, because obviously no sane woman would ever choose to perform such a vile and despicable act of her own free will.

Actually, the sex-is-rape feminists have been steadily replaced by the pussy-is-power feminists over the past decade.

If I were to guess, I'd say it's illegal for the same reason a lot of other things are banned, it was significantly harmful. Look at kosher laws, etc. God say's it's evil because it's bad for you. It may not still be that bad (refrigeration and condoms), but that's why it was declared evil.

I saw an article on human trafficing and it seems like if it was legal and regulated they would be able to catch the slavers easier. Also seems like lost tax revenue.

I think that legalization and regulation would make it much easier to track who's doing the prostituting and where they came from. Wanna be a ho? Get a license and an exam. It's so much more on the up and up that the "illegals" would stick out much more. As it is, it's all underground and kept quiet. The women aren't going to be afraid of going to authorities because what they're doing is illegal, if what they're doing isn't illegal. It will remove a layer of secrecy the traffickers use to shield themselves.

That sounds great, until you realize that the underground operations would keep right on going

Moreover, it would receive far less scrutiny because the regular police would basically ignore it. Other than driving, regular cops don't do much enforcement of licensed activity because there just isn't time

Why would they keep on going when there's now a legal way of serving the demand and monetizing the operation? At the very least, there would be much less of the underground stuff occurring as has been the case with both gambling and alcohol.

But if they didn't have to waste time busting and processing random streetwalkers, they'd have more time to deal with the traffickers.

Author:	Killuas [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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Why is it you can boff like a bunny for free but throw 20 bucks at them for it and now it is wrong? I saw an article on human trafficing and it seems like if it was legal and regulated they would be able to catch the slavers easier. Also seems like lost tax revenue.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:48 pm ]
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Because it's pathetic and sad? No, it shouldn't be illegal.

Author:	Xequecal [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:53 pm ]
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Same reason pot is illegal and gay marriage stays banned, because God says they're evil. (Not really, but that's what most people who tow this line believe) A good number of people also believe that any woman working as a prostitute is being somehow forced/coerced, or is insane, because obviously no sane woman would ever choose to perform such a vile and despicable act of her own free will.

Author:	Raltar [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure it is legal in two states. There's really no reason why it shouldn't be legal in all states, though. It would be a lot safer if it was regulated and all that at any rate.

Author:	FarSky [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:05 pm ]
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Xequecal wrote: Same reason pot is illegal and gay marriage stays banned, because God says they're evil. (Not really, but that's what most people who tow this line believe) A good number of people also believe that any woman working as a prostitute is being somehow forced/coerced, or is insane, because obviously no sane woman would ever choose to perform such a vile and despicable act of her own free will. To clarify: Gay marriage is illegal because people say God says it's evil. Pot is illegal because William Randolph Hearst said it was evil.

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Author:	Lex Luthor [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:10 pm ]
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It's illegal for cultural reasons, just like nudity.

Author:	Corolinth [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:19 pm ]
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One of the biggest myths about weed is that it was banned because it was dangerous or socially undesirable. Major companies just didn't want hemp products competing against them for revenue.

Author:	Lenas [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:31 pm ]
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Probably because of women's rights groups.

Author:	Corolinth [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:35 pm ]
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Actually, the sex-is-rape feminists have been steadily replaced by the pussy-is-power feminists over the past decade.

Author:	Khross [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:43 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote: Actually, the sex-is-rape feminists have been steadily replaced by the pussy-is-power feminists over the past decade. More correctly ... Feminism is a biological dead-end.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:50 pm ]
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If I were to guess, I'd say it's illegal for the same reason a lot of other things are banned, it was significantly harmful. Look at kosher laws, etc. God say's it's evil because it's bad for you. It may not still be that bad (refrigeration and condoms), but that's why it was declared evil.

Author:	Corolinth [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:50 pm ]
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That hasn't killed homosexuality or the voluntary human extinction movement.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:53 pm ]
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I think people discovered these things were harmful first and that's when God said they are evil.

Author:	RangerDave [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:12 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote: If I were to guess, I'd say it's illegal for the same reason a lot of other things are banned, it was significantly harmful. Look at kosher laws, etc. God say's it's evil because it's bad for you. It may not still be that bad (refrigeration and condoms), but that's why it was declared evil. I actually don't think that's it in this case. Prostitution was legal and (I think) somewhat socially acceptable in ancient Greece and Rome, for instance. I think it's more that those who have nothing left to sell can only sell themselves, so prostitution, at least prostitution of the "street-walker" variety, was associated with slaves and the poor, who were held in low social and moral esteem. As a result, prostitution became a mark of low status and low morals. Layer some Christian asceticism on that in the middle ages, and voila - prostitution becomes a dirty, sinful practice that only degenerates engage in, and it must therefore be outlawed to protect the morals of society.

Author:	Micheal [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:32 pm ]
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Most places that legalize prostitution in the world, legalize it in brothels only. Street and out call prostitution remains illegal. Brothel prostitutes are easier to regulate, are more likely to see the doctor, since the doctor usually comes to them and administers any appropriate tests. Almost needless to say, this does not eliminate street and out call prostitution in those areas. It just adds the legal prostitutes versus the illegal prostitutes to the mix.

Author:	Xequecal [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:23 pm ]
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Couldn't the average cop just ask to see a streetwalker's sex license while he or she is on patrol? That's an easy way to find people being held in sex slavery, since they presumably wouldn't be able to get a license. Aside from that, it's also not a given that illegal prostitution run by human traffickers would easily be able to compete with legal prostitution. Slavery has a pretty mixed track record when it comes to competing with free labor. But seriously, I'd be surprised if prostitution was legalized in the next 100 years. This is a country where pornography is still de facto illegal, you're not going to get people to accept prostitution.

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Author:	Rorinthas [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:46 pm ]
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It's legal in two states because the population of those states chose it to be. It's illegal in the rest because those populations don't want it. That's the way it should stay on this issue.

Author:	Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:56 pm ]
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AFAIK, currently, prostitution is legal only in some counties in Nevada. Prostitution was legal in the US until the early part of the 20th Century. You can thank the same folks for the push to make prostitution illegal, various drugs illegal and prohibition - the temperance movement. All have been dismal failures, by any reasonable measure, but it only took 13 years for the realization to hit home in the case of prohibition.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:39 pm ]
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Killuas wrote: I saw an article on human trafficing and it seems like if it was legal and regulated they would be able to catch the slavers easier. Also seems like lost tax revenue. Regardless of how you feel about the morality of prostitution, and the potential tax revenue, it would sure as **** not make it easier to catch human traffickers if it were legal. It would make it much harder. You would eliminate an entire line of reasonable suspicion and probable cause that can be used to find out why someone is a prostitute and what other crimes might have been committed to bring them to that point.

Author:	Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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I think that legalization and regulation would make it much easier to track who's doing the prostituting and where they came from. Wanna be a ho? Get a license and an exam. It's so much more on the up and up that the "illegals" would stick out much more. As it is, it's all underground and kept quiet. The women aren't going to be afraid of going to authorities because what they're doing is illegal, if what they're doing isn't illegal. It will remove a layer of secrecy the traffickers use to shield themselves.

Author:	Midgen [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:51 pm ]
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It's illegal because the government hasn't figured out a way to make money off of it yet...

Author:	Diamondeye [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:05 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote: I think that legalization and regulation would make it much easier to track who's doing the prostituting and where they came from. Wanna be a ho? Get a license and an exam. It's so much more on the up and up that the "illegals" would stick out much more. As it is, it's all underground and kept quiet. The women aren't going to be afraid of going to authorities because what they're doing is illegal, if what they're doing isn't illegal. It will remove a layer of secrecy the traffickers use to shield themselves. That sounds great, until you realize that the underground operations would keep right on going, and now it's much harder to go up and ask questions because the prostitutes are engaging in prima facia legal activity instead of illegal activity that allows you to start peeling the onion with much greater ease. Moreover, it would receive far less scrutiny because the regular police would basically ignore it. Other than driving, regular cops don't do much enforcement of licensed activity because there just isn't time, and because licensed activity generally requires extensive extra training to deal with. I don't see how it would remove any layer of secrecy; if anything it would add to it because illegal prostitutes would have to be differentiated from legal ones.

Author:	RangerDave [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:41 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: That sounds great, until you realize that the underground operations would keep right on going Why would they keep on going when there's now a legal way of serving the demand and monetizing the operation? At the very least, there would be much less of the underground stuff occurring as has been the case with both gambling and alcohol. Diamondeye wrote: Moreover, it would receive far less scrutiny because the regular police would basically ignore it. Other than driving, regular cops don't do much enforcement of licensed activity because there just isn't time But if they didn't have to waste time busting and processing random streetwalkers, they'd have more time to deal with the traffickers.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Why would they keep on going when there's now a legal way of serving the demand and monetizing the operation? At the very least, there would be much less of the underground stuff occurring as has been the case with both gambling and alcohol. Mainly because prostitution is not drugs or alcohol. They get to keep a much larger but of the money this way (as in, all of it). Diamondeye wrote: But if they didn't have to waste time busting and processing random streetwalkers, they'd have more time to deal with the traffickers. Regular police don't deal with the traffickers. They do, however, deal with the streetwalkers, or the girls found in some underground whorehouse, and that is what leads to the intelligence and information needed to get to the traffickers. Legalize prostitution, and that source vaporizes. Moreover, like Michael said, generally only brothel prositution is legal because trying to regulate every streetwalker out there is impossible, much less tax them. That would remain. I know "just legalize it" seems like a magic bullet solution, but it's not, especially not "because it worked with booze!" A human being is a very different thing from a bottle of whiskey.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:24 pm ]
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Street prostitution is vulgar and makes places more unpleasant. It's no different than zoning laws in my opinion. Would you want signs with "XXX", etc. everywhere too?