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| Author: | Nitefox [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's |
Cult of Personality http://newsbusters.org/blogs/candance-m ... ersonality --- Wow, she just lays it right out there. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:48 am ] |
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Sounds like just good campaign management. There's nothing dishonest or shady about what she's saying on that page. It's basically a reversal of the inept campaigns Gore and Kerry ran in 2000 and 2004. |
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| Author: | Nitefox [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:56 am ] |
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Talya wrote: Sounds like just good campaign management. There's nothing dishonest or shady about what she's saying on that page. It's basically a reversal of the inept campaigns Gore and Kerry ran in 2000 and 2004. I agree with that actually, it's just that it cheats the voting public. They aren't seeing the real guy, just what the campaign folks can get away with. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's |
http://www.lacan.com/zizpopulism.htm "Against the Populist Tempation" by Slavoj Žižek Quote: What is at stake here is not primarily the way politicians are packed and sold as merchandises at elections; a much deeper problem is that elections themselves are conceived along the lines of buying a commodity (power, in this case): they involve a competition among different merchandises-parties, and our votes are like money which we give to buy the government we want... what gets lost in such a view of politics as another service we buy is politics as a shared public debate of issues and decisions that concern us all. I've posted this previously, but I would suggest reading it if you haven't. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:39 pm ] |
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I don't see a major problem with Obama's campaign there.. they played smart. The problem was with the press and their willingness to accept this due to the slobbering love affair. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:46 pm ] |
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Nitefox wrote: Talya wrote: Sounds like just good campaign management. There's nothing dishonest or shady about what she's saying on that page. It's basically a reversal of the inept campaigns Gore and Kerry ran in 2000 and 2004. I agree with that actually, it's just that it cheats the voting public. They aren't seeing the real guy, just what the campaign folks can get away with. Well, I'd argue that's true in most cases with politicians. Nobody sees the real guy campaigning until he cheats on his wife or his taxes and gets caught. What they managed to cut back on is the sound bites taken out of context, scare tactics and similar from the other party, by controlling the flow of information. It isn't that you got a more or less accurate portrayal of the man than you did with the John Kerry campaign, it's that instead of seeing Obama the way the Republicans wanted you to see him (what Kerry fell victim to), they showed him how the democrats wanted you to see him. In either case, it's not accurate, it's just a matter of which party won the political battle. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:23 pm ] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2o ... r_embedded Seven lies in under 2 minutes! |
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