Elmarnieh wrote:
Nevermind, inside joke.
Nice save.
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| Author: | Micheal [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:15 pm ] |
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http://www.newsweek.com/2011/04/17/arno ... -trip.html From the bottom of page 2 But not even his politically savvy wife could save him from the fallout of his last-minute decision to reduce by nine years the 16-year voluntary-manslaughter sentence of Esteban Nuñez, who pleaded guilty to participating with three friends in the 2008 homicide of 22-year-old San Diego State University student Luis Santos. The dead man’s family, which received no advance warning of the governor’s decision, is suing to have the sentence restored. Young Nuñez happens to be the son of Schwarzenegger’s friend Fabian Nuñez, the former Democratic speaker of the state assembly. “I understand people’s disappointments. I understand the parents’ anger. I would probably feel the same way,” Schwarzenegger tells me in his first public comment on the commutation, which he granted hours before leaving office, arguing that his friend’s son didn’t inflict the fatal wound. “My office definitely made a mistake in not notifying the parents beforehand … and I’m ultimately responsible.” But, Schwarzenegger adds, “I feel good about the decision … I happen to know the kid really well. I don’t apologize about it … There’s criticism out there. I think it’s just because of our working relationship and all that. It maybe was kind of saying, ‘That’s why he did it.’ Well, hello! I mean, of course you help a friend.” ---------------------------- He did it to help a friend, not because of any sense of justice. He is getting pilloried on several news radio stations right now about this callous, corrupt behavior. What do you guys think of it? |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:21 pm ] |
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Impeachable. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:34 pm ] |
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Elmarnieh wrote: Impeachable. Legally, I rather think you're wrong there. It's a governor's (or president's) prerogative to pardon or issue clemency wherever he has jurisdiction, without need for explanation. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:35 pm ] |
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Pure unadulterated cronyism. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:41 pm ] |
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Can you Impeach someone after they have left office? |
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| Author: | Talya [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:42 pm ] |
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Aizle wrote: Pure unadulterated cronyism. Indeed. But I don't believe (in this case) there's anything illegal about that. I think such things work very much like the Presidential Pardon... http://people.howstuffworks.com/presidential-pardon.htm |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
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Aizle wrote: Pure unadulterated cronyism. pretty much this. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:34 pm ] |
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Negative press is pretty much the only possible penalty for a governor granting clemency. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
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If this is even remembered in 3 weeks ill be impressed. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:30 am ] |
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Elmarnieh wrote: Impeachable. Based on what? It's within his powers. |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:41 am ] |
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Elmarnieh wrote: Impeachable. On what grounds based on the actual documented laws of California is this Impeachable? Not on moral high ground, but on real laws that have been penned into the books? And if the person has left office... what can really be done? |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:51 am ] |
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Nevermind, inside joke. |
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| Author: | LadyKate [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:19 pm ] |
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Elmarnieh wrote: Nevermind, inside joke. Nice save.
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:26 pm ] |
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Maybe it would have been better with an exclamation point. Or if I had shopped it into this: 
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| Author: | darksiege [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:32 pm ] |
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I ask legitimately, I am not an expert of the law. Nor do I pretend to be. So it could have been as simple an answer as "california penal code xxx.xxx.xx subsection x" But I do not want to deal with ideals, I want to deal with actual laws, as written. |
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