The Glade 4.0

His latest blogs are proclaiming the free fall of the dollar as good news and that what we need more than anything is higher taxes and more easy credit (hes stopped short of suggesitng a negative prime rate from the Fed).

What is he thinking?

Better yet- what is he smoking?

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Maybe he wants to see what will rise up out of the ashes?

Who?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I think he means Paul Krugman.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Who? I seem to recall seeing that name.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

He's a economist with a focus in macro and global economic schools of economics, international and large scale finance and fiscal policy at a national level. He basically is just another Bernanke, Greenspan, Tim Geithner and Hank Paulson.

He often appears on various financial segments on MSNBC, Fox and CNN. Sometimes trading shows too, but his commentary usually is focused not on market performance or the like (except maybe Government issued Securities like the Bond Market) but towards Fiscal policy and policy and control of markets a'la the SEC and other such entities.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

He is a nobel prize winning economist, widely regarded by the world as a top economic mind.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Hitler was Time's man of the year in 39. Big whoop.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

wow.. the debate did not even go on long before it was taken there...

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Paul Krugman is a hack and a charlatan who won a Nobel Prize for someone else's work. And, it's really curious you think he has any credibility left after being demonstrably wrong about every prediction he's made in the last year. It's gotten to the point where he can't help but stumble over his own lies. The bailout was 3 times the size he said was needed last October, and just last week, Krugman was saying he knew it would be too small.

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Ouch you Goodwined...bad Elm!

As we have seen the Nobel Prize is now a "I hope you do good" prize, and really I lost respect for it when it went to Arafat.

Krugman was also an Enron advisor, so big props to his economics platform. The Wall Street Journal has been kicking him dailey over one his healthcare quotes. He is a tool plain and simple.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

If we can get in a reference to Schrödinger's cat; do we win the toaster?

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

I'm sorry sir. We stopped the toaster give away two months ago but we do have this nice pocket note book.

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Raell Kromwell

how about the 2.99 walmart wallet for when we give a pair of cute robber women a ride to McDonalds?

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Sorry, those are all spoken for.

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Raell Kromwell

Source?

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

lol look at you asking that silly question again. Back of the line buddy, there are a lot of us still waiting for answers to that question.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Well, I expected Khross to say he was a hack and a charlatan, but then again, Khross is ideologically opposed to what Krugman promotes. Then again, Khross doesn't have a Nobel Prize, and Krugman does, so I'll lean towards Krugman as a source on economics. As for a source, it should be self evident. He's an internationally prominent speaker, writer, and teacher in the field.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

I'll see your hack with a Nobel Prize and raise you a Friedman.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Ad hominem.

Appeal to emotion

Appeal to authority

Appeal to popularity



Good work, 4 logical fallacies in 3 sentences. Not bad.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

1) No it isn't. It's not an ad hominem to point out that someone operates in an expected fashion, as others have pointed out. How is the second sentence an appeal to emotion? It's a statement of fact, and then a statement of opinion. And finally, are you saying that pointing out someone's expertise is an appeal to authority? I don't ignore my doctor's advice because accepting him as an expert is an appeal to authority. He's a qualified doctor. Krugman is an eminently qualified economist. That doesn't just go away because people here don't like him.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

No - it goes away because he is wrong.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

In your opinion. Which, when it comes to economics, I personally don't place a great deal of weight on. He is eminently more qualified than you when it comes to economics.

I am talking about why I accept Krugman's opinions over the posters here, and his expertise and accomplishments have a lot to do with that. I am not arguing about his rightness or wrongness. I'm talking about why I trust his opinions more than other opinions.

That's why DFK's tirade about logical fallacies doesn't apply. I am arguing about why I believe Krugman is a good source when it comes to economics. He would have been correct had I used those arguments to support a specific economic issue. For example, if I had said "Krugman is correct about deficit spending because he's a Nobel Prize winning economist", I would have been guilty of an appeal to authority. But that isn't what's going on here.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

No, actually they haven't. They've pointed out that it's not a violation of he board's rules to do so. That doesn't change the fact that it's still falacious, and does nothing to establish Krugman's credibility.



How do you know he was referring to the second sentence?



You're aware that sometimes people get second opinions from doctors? That's because experts in a field can disagree. When they do, it's an appeal to authority then to cite one authority and claim that a position is correct because he says so. If you can provide additional evidence to support that authority's opinion on the matter, it's not a fallacy to use his opinion as support, but it is not proof in and of itself.

It's equally fallacious to dismiss an authority's opinion simply because another authority disagrees.

Technically what you said was that you would take Krugman's opinion over Khross's, so you didn't commit the fallacy in terms of discussion here, but since you've given no reason other than Krugman's popularity and authority status for accepting his ideas, it appears that you've committed th cited fallacies in your personal thinking.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

DE - That may be true, but as you said, I did not commit the fallacy that DFK claimed.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show