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Author: | Lydiaa [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Segregation atonement scholarships and white recipients |
The short version is: Half a century after many Virginia public schools shut their doors rather than accept black students, the state is offering college scholarships to compensate those whose education suffered in the era of "massive resistance" to desegregation. Among the recipients: white students. Spoiler: Unless I'm missing some part of the extended effect of history, I personally see no problem with white students receiving this scholarship. I also don't see the point of awarding scholarships to those over the retirement age... So I thought I'd toss this to you guys... |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Segregation atonement scholarships and white recipients |
There's really not a whole lot of point in it as a practical matter, although not everyone over retirement age can retire, so this might be helpful in some cases. As to the issue of whites getting access to it, the problem is right here: Quote: "This was the state's chance to apologize for wrongdoing, not to award people who have never known racism," "Racism" is not really the issue, and never has been. In the 1950s and 60s and into the 1970s, racism had real, tangible, measurable effects like segregation. As progress has been made over the intervening years since Brown v. Board of Education, those effects have passed, so that now it is very hard indeed to find any directly negative consequence anyone suffers as a direct effect of racism. The problem is that social attitudes among blacks have, largely, not changed when it comes to perceiving racism. There are 2 main reasons for this: 1) Lingering economic disadvantage. Blacks, as a whole, are economically worse off than whites as a whole. This is frequently cited as evidence of continued "racism". The problem, however, is that the farther we get from the era when real, tangible barriers to black success existed the less we can really blame it on racism because more and more factors intervene. For example, a common complaint is that schools in poor black areas have little money, and that this is "racism". This argument, however, ignores that A) the school being underfunded is not an excuse not to attend it; one can still get pretty well educated if one applies onesself and B) fails to account for poor areas that are not predominantly black. Indeed, there is often a catch-22 where a black person who achieves is called a "sell-out" or are told they are "trying to be white", which points to an unrealistic view amongst many blacks that if only there were no "racism" their problems would magically go away without effort on their part. 2) The use of "racism" as an excuse not to confront real issues, or to adapt thinking about racial issues to changing times. This problem is one that is primarily driven by Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and their ilk. They are old men who are unable to adjust their thinking from the 1960s, and so every new issue that arises is met with new cries of "racism!" Essentially, "racism" has morphed itself into a problem that cannot ever be solved because it constantly redefines itself. It is, in scientific terms, an undisprovable hypothesis, and we all know what the worth of an undisprovable hypothesis is. New social initiatives such as affirmative action are not measured in terms of their fairness, but in terms of whether they combat "racism", and that racism will never go away (and therefore neither will the program) because any suggestion it is not there or the program is not necessary is termed "racist". Monty used to like to talk about "dog whistle" politics and "Stealth racism" both of which are clever ways of saying "I can call something racist, and it is so unless it is disproven to my satisfaction", satisfaction which would never be attained no matter how overwhelming the evidence. Basically, those crying racism shift the burden of proof, laying the claim on whatever they please and then challenging the other side to dispute it and also laying the additional claim of racism on any counter argument. Thus, the claim I quoted shows the false thinking: The problem isn't "racism" the problem is what harm people suffered. This black woman, however, doesn't get that. She thinks it is about giving her a reward for how other people thought, not remedying the damage to her education, and thus she does not understand that others who suffered damage should be entitled to the same treatment regardless of how others thought about them. Of course, there's also the issue of whether such a program should exist at all, and frankly I find it a bit silly and misguided, but in terms of the racial issues, there it is. |
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