I think '86 is pushing it too early. But, yes. It's certainly been dead for a while, and now is invoked by things far too optimistic, cheery, and, dare I say it, mainstream to qualify in a desperate attempt to seem edgy and cool.
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| Author: | Khross [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Everything Punk ... |
I'm not sure what process one goes through when they decide to write a totally unsolicited monograph on a subject no one really wants to broach in academics, but I think I've reached that point. So, I'm putting this post here in advent I need to verbally eviscerate one of a select few posters for their errant predilections as aesthetes instead of scholars. That said ... Punk is dead. Please stop over-using the term punk. In fact, please stop using the term punk. When I hear reference on NBC to "Steampunk" on the NBC Morning Show; you have gone too far. You have, in point of fact, given to the mainstream media a very curious and intellectually radical socio-cultural phenomenon of the last quarter of the 20th Century. We have been post-punk since 1985. If need be, I am prepared to publish an entire book on this subject. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:40 pm ] |
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Please do. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:41 pm ] |
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I'd read at least the first chapter. It might get repetitive after that. |
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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:59 pm ] |
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Can I still listen to the Misfits for horror punk? |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:16 pm ] |
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I'd read it. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:29 pm ] |
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I think you should find more significant matters to address. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:19 pm ] |
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Hmmm... Doompunk. An interesting idea. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:00 pm ] |
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I think '86 is pushing it too early. But, yes. It's certainly been dead for a while, and now is invoked by things far too optimistic, cheery, and, dare I say it, mainstream to qualify in a desperate attempt to seem edgy and cool.
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Everything Punk ... |
We've had our differences, but I consider you a man capable of great wisdom and intellect. Why you desire to use that intellect to shake your fist at an apathetic world and tell them they are doing it wrong eludes me though. Not saying you're always wrong. I guess I just don't think the same why you do. It's probably why we've been at odds so much over the years. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:23 am ] |
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Cyberpunk is ok post-80s in my opinion... |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:07 am ] |
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I don't get at all why some people younger than me keep calling Green Day punk. Green Day...Sex Pistols...Green Day? |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:38 am ] |
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I don't get why some people called Limp Bizkit heavy metal. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:41 am ] |
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why would I buy the book? I get to come here and listen to Khross rant about it here for free ;-> |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:51 am ] |
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Obviously the book isn't targeted at us. It's meant for other, less fortunate people who don't have the opportunity to listen to his rants. |
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| Author: | Hannibal [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:08 am ] |
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I hate seeing kids wearing a nice new Misfits or Dead Kennedy's shirt. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:28 am ] |
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TheRiov wrote: why would I buy the book? I get to come here and listen to Khross rant about it here for free ;-> It's alright; you wouldn't grok it anyway.
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:57 am ] |
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Yes, your 60's terminology will undoubtedly flummox me. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:04 am ] |
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I thought punk was created by Johnny Rotten to make money off easily influenced young people that wanted to make their parents angry? I never liked punk anyway. 
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| Author: | Lenas [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:23 am ] |
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Punk is/was stupid. Glad it's "dead". |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:41 am ] |
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It's not dead, it's evolved - like everything else. It's influenced and been influenced by other forms of music over time and has changed, been split into different directions, and/or been assimilated into other forms. There is no purity in art. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:00 pm ] |
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TheRiov wrote: Yes, your 60's terminology will undoubtedly flummox me. *chuckles* Actually, simply doubt you would do the required legwork to read a monograph such as those I produce. It's not something that would provide you any immediate material or career-path benefit; consequently, the rational conclusion is you would neither understand nor benefit from anything I actually publish.I have no illusions that my writing is for a very small niche market that does pretty much the same things that I do. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:11 pm ] |
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I am listening to the best punk band ever right now. T'Pau |
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| Author: | Rafael [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:40 pm ] |
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What about hardcore? Didn't that word become meaningless in regards to describing pre-packaged subcultures with the advent of happy hardcore? |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:59 pm ] |
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Double penetration? |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
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Quote: I don't get at all why some people younger than me keep calling Green Day punk. Because they are dumb. Quote: I don't get why some people called Limp Bizkit heavy metal. Please see bolded comment above |
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