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Author:  Ladas [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Education as a commodity
We have had this discussion multiple times in the past, as well as the related discussions about how the general approach to education will cause lowering the bar, not elevating the student.

WSJ article from the DoEd regarding just that practice. What was obvious, but not mentioned, was the hypocrisy that is the government always claiming how education funds are so well spent and use the test scores as proof.

Also, a more minor note, but considering SC is always touted as the worst in the country for education... this was interesting:

Quote:
Among the findings:

* Thirty-one states deemed fourth-graders proficient in reading when they would have rated below basic on NAEP. Mississippi's standards were lowest, and Massachusetts' were highest.
* Seventeen states deemed eighth-graders proficient at reading when they would have rated below basic on NAEP. Tennessee's standards were lowest, and South Carolina's were highest.
* Ten states deemed fourth- and eighth-graders proficient at math when they would have rated below basic on NAEP. Tennessee's standards were lowest; Massachusetts had the highest fourth-grade math standards, and South Carolina had the highest eighth-grade standards.


Which just reinforces the point to some degree... the state deemed the worst because of test scores has the highest standards... not to mention every student in SC high schools takes the college entrances exams (usually the SAT), which badly skews the totals compared to most states.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:53 pm ]
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"And this is what has taken place. The delusion of the day is to enrich all classes at the expense of each other; it is generalize plunder under pretense of organizing it. Now, legal plunder may be exercised in an infinite multitude of ways. Hence come an infinite multitude of plans for organizations; tariffs, protection, perquisites, gratuities, encouragements, progressive taxation, free public education, right to work, right to profit, right to wages, right to assistance, right to instruments of labor, gratuity of credit, etc,etc. And it is these plans, taken as a whole, with what they have in common, legal plunder, that takes the name of socialism." Frederic bastiat The Law 1789
Author:  Lydiaa [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Education as a commodity
I guess I've always seen good education as a commodity. Not just in terms of test results but everything else that should go along with a well rounded education.

In terms of funding, I am in favour of student numbers, rather than student scores (provided the schools don't fake numbers and such). As the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water" right?

A willing student will go out and attempt to find resources to further their education, while an unwilling one will fail no matter how low you lower the bar. Measuring something that is more dependent on the 'cats' then the 'herders' is only going to end up messy.
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