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Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:49 am ]
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Those damn Canucks are infringing a man's right to bear arms.

Wendy Stueck, for The Globe and Mail wrote:
Man smuggling bear paws arrested at Vancouver airport

Wrapped in foil and tucked in a carry-on bag, the bear paws were on their way to Asia, part of a shadowy, international trade in animal parts that flourishes even as governments step up efforts to contain it.

Instead, the paws – three of them, from two different black bears – were spotted early Sunday by security staff at Vancouver International Airport, where a 39-year-old man was detained as he attempted to board a flight to China.

The man, a Vancouver resident, was arrested and released on a promise to appear in provincial court in Richmond on Oct. 6, said Sergeant Dave Jevons of B.C.’s Conservation Officer Service, which is now in charge of the investigation.

B.C. prosecutors have yet to approve charges, but investigators are expected to recommend stiff fines and possible jail time.

“We will be seeking from Crown a recommendation for a very stiff penalty,” Sgt. Jevons said Monday. “We want people to know that if you do try this and you get caught, it’s not going to be just a slap on the wrist. You will be significantly fined – if you are a hunter, we will seek to have your hunting privileges suspended … that’s where we look for the deterrence effect.”

Provincial legislation provides for a fine of up to $250,000 and up to six months in prison for a first offence, Sgt. Jevons said.

The trade in illegal animal parts includes bear paws, sometimes used in soups, and bear gall bladders, which are used in traditional medicines.

B.C. conservation officers regularly deal with incidents involving smuggled bear parts, Sgt. Jevons said, although he was not able to say how many such incidents have occurred over the past few years.

“We know it’s an ongoing problem,” he said. “Like any illicit trade, it is very difficult to quantify – because what we see is only a portion of the illegal activity.”

Both individuals and organized groups are involved in the trade, he added.

It is legal to hunt both black and grizzly bears in B.C., but it is illegal to sell any bear parts.

The man could face charges under B.C.’s Wildlife Act as well as federal legislation used to enforce Canada’s obligations under CITES, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora.

In 2009, a B.C. company was fined $45,000 for illegally possessing medicine that contained tiger parts.

An Environment Canada investigation found the company possessed medicine and products made from some of the rarest species on the planet.

Editor's note: The spokesman for B.C.’s Conservation Officer Service is Sergeant Dave Jevons. Incorrect information appeared in an earlier version of this story. This version has been corrected.

Author:  Talya [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:23 am ]
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Kaffis, the bad pun you used here is the only thing that makes this worthy of Hellfire.

Author:  Corolinth [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:33 am ]
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We should invade. Clearly the terrorists are in Canada.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:16 am ]
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Talya wrote:
Kaffis, the bad pun you used here is the only thing that makes this worthy of Hellfire.

Well, I figure even Hellfire needs a reason to laugh every once in a while. You're welcome. In addition, the whole animal smuggling thing might turn into a flamefest on its own merits.

Author:  Talya [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:23 am ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
In addition, the whole animal smuggling thing might turn into a flamefest on its own merits.


What are you implying here? Whatever it is, I resent it. And you are a bleeding-heart nazi lib repugnican **** commie.

Author:  Corolinth [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:24 am ]
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He's saying you Canadians are animal ****.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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It's kind of odd that it's legal to hunt them but not legal to sell the parts.

Author:  Talya [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:03 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
It's kind of odd that it's legal to hunt them but not legal to sell the parts.


That type of quandary comes up more often than you'd think.

George Carlin wrote:
I do not understand why prostitution is illegal. Why should prostitution be illegal? Selling is legal. **** is legal. Why isn’t selling **** legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that’s perfectly legal to give away? I can’t follow the logic on that at all. Of all the things you can do to a person, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world.

Author:  LadyKate [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:03 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
It's kind of odd that it's legal to hunt them but not legal to sell the parts.


That's what I was thinking...so why did they arrest the guy then? Did I miss something? I mean, him having the bear parts on him doesn't necessarily mean he was going to sell them, right? Maybe they were an inflight snack or something or he was having company over for dinner when he got to China.

Author:  Aethien [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:19 pm ]
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Note the question as to whether or not he's a hunter. Most of the animals killed and parted out are not killed by a hunter, I would think. It's like finning sharks. By allowing the export of just the paws, for example, you encourage people to just kill them for their paws, leaving the rest to go to waste. Or, you do it out of season, 'cause someone in China will pay $1500/paw. So, just shut down the whole thing.

Author:  Micheal [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:20 pm ]
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What about the left paws?

Author:  shuyung [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:28 pm ]
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You don't eat a bear like that all at once.

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