The Glade 4.0

http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp- ... caPlan.pdf

I like the Presidential pay cut a lot.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Sign me up...

I think The Pesident, all of his appointees (including czars), and all elected federal represetatives should have to work for free until they balance the budget.

Ron Paul 2012 let's do it.

From the link Elmo provided:

There's not really enough info in that plan to make a decision. He wants to get rid of the Dept of Commerce and the Dept of Energy. Commerce is the department that issues patents and trademarks, someone has to do that. You can't just get rid of it. Energy oversees the nuclear weapons, of course someone needs to do this.

Also, the budget projections are just pure fabrications. A $1 trillion increase in federal revenues in four years? Yeah, right.

Why do people even care about Presidential pay? This is even stupider than when people complain about CEO pay. Even if it is a "problem" it's so minor it's not worth addressing.

Honestly, what really scares me about Paul is not his actual stated positions, but that he's a total hardliner who will never compromise. If he gets elected and Congress passes something that gives him half of what he outlines in this plan I'd see him vetoing it on pure principle. In fact I'd see him taking the stance that he will veto everything Congress passes period until they approve his budget plan.

DOD can oversee nuclear weapons. Just move the agency that does this under DOD separate from the actual services. That's hardly a problem.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I don't think that he would veto everything just because their budget didn't match his plan. I do believe that he would veto everything if they fail to balance the budget. But in either case...good! Quite honestly, virtually any balanced budget would be superior to what we have now. And if Congress doesn't like it, they can go suck a 3/4 majority egg. That's what it's there for.

Frankly, "unless you want to have to get a 3/4 majority for everything you pass, balance the **** budget" is a message that Congress desperately needs to be dick-slapped with. And it's not like this is some kind of secret agenda. It's going to be awfully hard (in an alternate reality where Paul actually gets elected...) to find political cover when that spending bill for, say, Social Security won't pass given that the President has told you up front that he's going to veto everything until you balance the budget. I mean, they call him "Dr. No" FFS. How well do you think "we jeopardized your retirement because we thought he was bluffing" is going to fly?

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

It's a little thing, but it shows that frugality begins at "home" so to speak. Also I don't know about nukes (DE's idea sounds as good as any), but we had patents long before we had a secretary of commerce.

I don't see anyone else in federal government laying out a budget these days so you at least have to give him props for that.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

QFMFT.

This is exactly WHY we need a hardliner in the Presidency.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Ron Paul would just be making up for twelve years of presidents not vetoing a goddamn thing.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

I don't love everything about Ron Paul. But every single one of the other candidates (possibly excepting Cain's questionable 9-9-9 plan) are just status quo. For all intents and purposes they are all the same.

I refuse to support status quo. It's obvious what is being done, and has been done for the last 30+ year has been moving us further and further down the shithole. Something needs to change and it needs to change dramatically. No more arguing about a million here or a billion there. Screw it....

At this point I'm going to vote for the candidate that makes the best case for reducing government size, and government waste. And the more the merrier...

The First U.S. Patent act was passed in 1790 and amended in 1793 with the definition (by Jefferson) that persists today. The U.S. Patent Office existed for 110 years before it was pushed under the Department of Commerce and Labor, which was split into two Departments about a decade later.

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Either you vote status quo or you vote Ron Paul. The status quo obviously hasn't worked out too great.

I still think he should be running for Speaker, not President.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

You're so stupid, nobody runs for speaker.

I'm completely tired of compromise. We compromise everything I hold dear.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Cool. I can go fishing that day.

I know the Speaker isn't directly elected. However that doesn't mean he wouldn't be better at it than Boener nor that he couldn't campaign for people to call their reps to support selecting him as Speaker.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Paul would be a nightmare Speaker for the majority of Republican reps. It would never happen, no matter who or how many people called in.

The Speaker is all about directing how deals are cut. Deals are what keep reps electable. Dr. No is the last person they want in that kind of position.

You could probably sway some of the "Tea Party" freshmen, but that's about it.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Ron Paul would be a nightmare President, too. You think the media beats up the Republican party as the party of "No" now? Elect Ron Paul and the Dems will hold the WH and both houses of Congress in 4 years, and it may last for a generation before the GOP is viable again.

Why? Do you feel Americans would for some reason be opposed to peace and prosperity after being exposed to it for four years?

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

I too am curious for a more detailed understanding of this position...

Evidently he thinks that Ron Paul will not result in 4 years of peace and prosperity.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Nor would it with any of the other fscking retards running for that office...

Well, he's free to be wrong I suppose. I'll come at his expounded argument once he makes it.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20