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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news ... y-fail.ars

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One of the most depressing bits of today's Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) Congressional hearing was watching US Register of Copyrights Maria Pallante double down on her support for blacklisting Internet sites, encouraging private companies to cut off credit card processing to certain sites in the absence of any court order, and sending the US government after sites that "facilitate" copyright infringement (YouTube? DropBox? Scribd? Google Docs?).

So serious is the apparent threat of piracy that without tough action like SOPA, "the US copyright system will ultimately fail," she said. Apparently, Pallante wasn't kidding when she told me this summer that, although quite sympathetic to the need for more flexibility in copyright, "I always start with the enforcement issues online because if there isn't effective enforcement possibility, then there is no meaningful exclusive right and then copyright doesn't work."

Indeed, Pallante already holds the view that SOPA's unprecedented provisions might not be enough, and that "additional measure or adjustments may be needed."

In her brief tenure as the top copyright official in the US, Pallante has come across as pragmatic and moderate, speaking at fair use events and talking about the need for orphan works reform and more library exceptions. So today's full-throated, almost totally unquestioning defense of SOPA as the "next step in ensuring that our law keeps pace with infringement" came as a surprise.

Gigi Sohn, head of the digital rights group Public Knowledge (which counts Google as a supporter, but which has also hosted Pallante as a speaker on fair use), was also caught off guard. "Perhaps most disappointing was the testimony of Register of Copyrights Maria Pallante," said Sohn. "The SOPA legislation is in no way ‘measured,’ as she said today."

“In March, she raised concerns about that legislation should not “unnecessarily jeopardize the efficient operation of the Internet” while endorsing a ‘follow-the-money’ approach to shutting down rogue sites. Today, she supported SOPA without qualification and failed to address the harms to cybersecurity and the Domain Name System she feared not a few months ago, while minimizing the value of the ‘follow-the-money’ approach."

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I remember this woman speaking in the video stream. She's not ignorant, but rather heavily biased and convincing enough to sway others to her position.


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Scare tactics. SOPA won't "destroy the internets" nor will current copyright law fail without it. The likely scenario is closer to the "destroy the internets" side of the aisle, but all it will really do is make criminals out of normal, otherwise law-abiding people.

Its not just music and movies either. I've.. um... heard stories about someone that couldn't get a book legally from Kindle because it wasn't available digitally from the publisher. That person turned to the piracy sites and found the books they were looking for, and in minutes was reading the content they desired. They were fully willing to pay for the content, but because it wasn't available through legal channels, they had to go somewhere they could get the content.

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Like a book store?

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Like a book store?


I've been told it was 3am, and even if it was during business hours, its likely the books would not have been in stock.

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Its not just music and movies either. I've.. um... heard stories about someone that couldn't get a book legally from Kindle because it wasn't available digitally from the publisher. That person turned to the piracy sites and found the books they were looking for, and in minutes was reading the content they desired. They were fully willing to pay for the content, but because it wasn't available through legal channels, they had to go somewhere they could get the content.


This scenario plays out so much with international music because of idiotic licensing contracts with e-distributors. Music gets released on the other side of the pond and you can't buy it from the label's website until it gets licensed to be sold on a different website. :thumbs: :psyduck:

By the time it is available over here, it's not a good choice for club play. These morons are shooting themselves in the feet with lost licensing revenues.

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I though cassette recorders and copy machines were going to destroy copyright law long before the Internet was even invented.

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See, the thing I don't get is what's the difference between recording a song off the radio and downloading it from a torrent site?

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They'd tell you "quality" but the truth is "not much" Which is why they said all the same evil things about the internet about the cassette recorder 30+ years ago. This will likely end the same way: with a federal tax (either directly or to the ISPs) being placed on internet usage and going directly to the RIAA.

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You wanna stop piracy?

Start arresting pirates. None of this civil lawsuit bullshit. It's a crime. Prosecute.

You want to stop piracy overseas? Trade embargos until your foreign powers are doing the same.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Start arresting pirates. None of this civil lawsuit bullshit. It's a crime. Prosecute.


I think this is what some of the proponents of this bill ultimately want. They used a lot of rhetoric equating piracy to theft and murder.


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Start arresting pirates. None of this civil lawsuit bullshit. It's a crime. Prosecute.


I think this is what some of the proponents of this bill ultimately want. They used a lot of rhetoric equating piracy to theft and murder.

And there's nothing wrong with arresting pirates, or wanting to. But **** up DNS and censoring content isn't the way to do it, and doesn't contribute to the goal of arresting pirates. Nor does trying to strong-arm Google into doing things that may or may not even be possible.

It's the ISPs you need to work with. Google is not an ISP, nor is it content police. Back in the day, various agencies had good working relationships with Telcos to track hackers when they wanted to. There's no reason that the FBI and USSS can't develop similar relationships with ISPs and other Telcoms again to do the same. But to do that, you've got to stop pretending the gateways to content are the bad guys.

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Copyright is bullshit anyway. I welcome its inevitable failure.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
And there's nothing wrong with arresting pirates, or wanting to.

Why do you think that's a good idea, Kaffis? Is it a moral belief that the creators of a work should have legally enforceable property rights in that work? Is it a pragmatic concern that absent such rights, the quantity and quality of creative content would be reduced? Some of both?


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
And there's nothing wrong with arresting pirates, or wanting to.

Why do you think that's a good idea, Kaffis? Is it a moral belief that the creators of a work should have legally enforceable property rights in that work? Is it a pragmatic concern that absent such rights, the quantity and quality of creative content would be reduced? Some of both?


Because Piracy = Theft = Murder

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