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Author:  Diamondeye [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Too fat? NP, just make the other guy stand

MSNBC

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A passenger on a US Airways flight said he was forced to stand for seven hours after he was squeezed out of his seat by an obese man sitting next to him.

“I didn’t fly from Alaska to Philadelphia on Flight 901,” Arthur Berkowitz told Christopher Elliott, a consumer advocate who operates elliott.org. “I stood.”

“His size required both armrests to be raised up and allowed for his body to cover half of my seat,” Berkowitz said. “It did not allow me to use my seatbelt during takeoff and landing as well as required me to stand in the aisle and galley area for most of the seven-hour-plus flight.”

The incident occurred on July 29 and was first reported by Elliott on Tuesday.

Berkowitz said he alerted flight attendants to the problem, but they were unable to accommodate him, according to his account on elliott.org. “They were sympathetic, but they could not do anything. No other seats existed on plane. They would not permit me to sit in their jump seats, and fully acknowledged the mistake by their gate agent, in allowing this individual on plane without requiring him to purchase and occupy two seats,” he said.

Liz Landau, a spokesperson for US Airways, confirmed that Berkowitz was inconvenienced by a passenger of size and told msnbc.com “it was his choice to stand.”

“His seatmate had the same right to his seat as Mr. Berkowitz did to his. So here’s where the diplomacy and cooperation of all passengers comes into play,” the airline said in a statement.

Berkowitz was unhappy with the $200 voucher the airline offered him for his experience, at which point he contacted Elliott.

"We have attempted to address this customer’s service concerns,” the airline statement said, “but offering increasing amounts of compensation based on a threat of a safety violation isn’t really fair — especially when the passenger himself said he didn’t follow crew members’ instructions and fasten his seatbelt.

“The way to ensure you have space available next to you — whether you are a person of size, or you would simply like to ensure you have more personal space to relax on a long flight — is to purchase that additional seat, or First Class, in advance.”


The underlined part is my favorite. Who cares what right the fat guy had to his own seat? That wasn't the issue; the issue is that he's so damn fat that seat was inadequate and he took someone else's.

Author:  Lenas [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:10 pm ]
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This is why fat people should be charged for multiple seats.

Author:  Raltar [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:35 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
This is why fat people should be charged for multiple seats.


I agree...as long as they need them. I'm a fat person, but I can fit in a single seat.

Author:  Lydiaa [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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He should have demanded to have his own seat. The fact that the guy couldn't fit into his seat was not the guy's problem. If the dude couldn't fit into his seat with the hand rest down, then the dude should sort out his own issue and maybe stand.

Author:  Corolinth [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:38 pm ]
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We can stop world hunger by eating our fat people.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:53 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote:
We can stop world hunger by eating our fat people.


Or we could use them as jet fuel.

Author:  Lenas [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:06 pm ]
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Lydiaa wrote:
He should have demanded to have his own seat.


Likely a full flight with no room.

Also, you should clarify your post a bit more. At least say fat guy and skinny guy, or fat dude and normal dude.

Author:  Lydiaa [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:14 pm ]
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Skinny dude should have demanded to have his own seat. The fact that the non-skinny dude couldn't fit into his seat was not the skinny dude's problem. If the non-skinny dude couldn't fit into his seat with the hand rest down, then the non-skinny dude should sort out his own issue and maybe stand.

Author:  Hopwin [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:29 pm ]
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The fat guy wouldn't have fit in the aisle either.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:39 pm ]
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They should have bumped someone out of first class so that everyone could at least sit.

If something had befallen the plane and he had no place to strap in it would have been very bad.

Author:  Rynar [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:40 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote:
They should have bumped someone out of first class so that everyone could at least sit.


No, they should have kicked the fat **** off the plane before take off.

Author:  Lydiaa [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:41 pm ]
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Hopwin wrote:
The fat guy wouldn't have fit in the aisle either.


Ya but thats not the skinny guy's problem, thats the airline's problem.

Author:  Foamy [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:00 pm ]
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'scuse me all you insensitive @$$holes....

That's "Person of size" not "Fat Guy"

/snerk

Author:  Rynar [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:09 pm ]
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Foamy wrote:
'scuse me all you insensitive @$$holes....

That's "Person of size" not "Fat Guy"

/snerk


Incorrect. The obese aren't people, they're just fat.

/additional Snerk

Author:  Micheal [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:31 am ]
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As part of the 1% and their sycophants, you are on the menu, not a diner.

Do you have a preferred sauce one of the unemployed chefs can prepare to prepare you with?

Author:  Uncle Fester [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:06 am ]
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Times like this make me glad my fat goes forward and not to the sides

Author:  Hannibal [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:54 pm ]
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Youre also built like a freggin bear so it all balances out.

Author:  Wwen [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:47 pm ]
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"Passenger of size" It's easier to just say "fat ****."

Author:  Micheal [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:37 pm ]
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As a fat ****, I prefer super sized, but be your inner jerk if you like.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:14 am ]
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I think it would be more fair if the overweight man had to stand up the entire flight.

Author:  Wwen [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:02 am ]
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I'm an outer jerk.

Author:  Nevandal [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:54 am ]
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Quote:
“I didn’t fly from Alaska to Philadelphia on Flight 901,” Arthur Berkowitz told Christopher Elliott, a consumer advocate who operates elliott.org. “I stood.”


I absolutely love this line!!! Hahahaha!

Author:  Rorinthas [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:57 am ]
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Yeah obviously someone should have been bumped before the flight left the gate and ideally it should have been the person who wasn't following the rules.

However if we've passed that window of opportunity, then something should have been done so that everyone could fly safely.

Author:  Killuas [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:05 am ]
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They would have arrested me, because I would have refused to put the arm rest up. You have to be really fat to not fit in the seat. Having said that I have problems in those seats but it is up top.

My shoulders are too wide for the airplane seats I always book a window seat so I can lean against it otherwise if I sit straight my shoulders will be up against the person next to me.

Author:  FarSky [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:34 am ]
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Killuas wrote:
My shoulders are too wide for the airplane seats I always book a window seat so I can lean against it otherwise if I sit straight my shoulders will be up against the person next to me.

/fistbump

Long flights sitting in middle seats are agony to me, in large part because of my dogged insistence on not intruding into another person's shoulder space. Which means four hours of sitting hunched down into myself. Bloody miserable.

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