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Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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That Obama has dismal approval ratings for an incumbent president in a reelection year, and the field of candidates you present us with are so uninspiring and Neocon-ish (except for Paul, whom you're collaborating with the media quite successfully to pretend doesn't exist) that you can't even motivate a good turnout for your primary.

How pathetic is that? Maybe you should try something new.

Author:  FarSky [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:35 pm ]
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What is standard approval rating for an incumbent President in a reelection year?

Edit: found info. This is cool: http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/presi ... enter.aspx Also, it appears it was during Reagan's era that we began to see a more stark blindness of approval/disapproval along party lines (check out the "Historical Trend" tab and mouse over "Democrats" and "Republicans;" Nixon seems to be a fluke, but, well...Nixon).

Author:  Corolinth [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:46 pm ]
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Remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Vote no in November.

Author:  Talya [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:49 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote:
Remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil.


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Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:53 pm ]
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I get the great privilege of voting against Boehner twice in one year this year.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:15 pm ]
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Maybe you'll get lucky this time.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:09 pm ]
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It would be hilarious to see the Tea Party primary Boehner out of the election. It's not going to happen, but that would be a priceless moment.

Author:  Dash [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:26 pm ]
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It's pretty sad. I'm not a Ron Paul guy at all and he's still the best of the bunch. Hopefully his son runs in 4 or 8 years.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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Both the parties need the wake-up call of an incumbent President getting primaried.

I would totally support either Paul running in 4 years, regardless of who wins.

Author:  Corolinth [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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It's never going to happen, because parties with an incumbent president don't have to primary. Especially now that the party is no longer beholden to the state.

Author:  Hopwin [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:57 am ]
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I chose issues only because I didn't want to pick between a turd-sandwich and a philly cheese-shit.

Author:  Dash [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:56 am ]
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I definitely like Rand more than Ron, from what I know about him anyway.

I really cant believe Rick Santorum is a serious consideration.

Author:  Corolinth [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:32 am ]
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I can, easily. The Republican party has been hijacked by religious nut jobs.

Author:  Hopwin [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:37 am ]
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Santorum is in the race because the voter turnout for the primaries has been historically low. No one on the Republican side is inspiring any confidence in anyone so they are staying home.

Author:  Diamondeye [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:27 am ]
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Corolinth wrote:
I can, easily. The Republican party has been hijacked by religious nut jobs.


That may appear to be true, if by "religious nut jobs" you mean "anyone who is religious".

Author:  Wwen [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:54 pm ]
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That's a lot of nuts!

Author:  Khross [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:06 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote:
Corolinth wrote:
I can, easily. The Republican party has been hijacked by religious nut jobs.
That may appear to be true, if by "religious nut jobs" you mean "anyone who is religious".
Everyone is religious, so ...

Author:  Müs [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:53 am ]
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Khross wrote:
Everyone is religious, so ...


No, not everyone is.

Author:  Jocificus [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:20 am ]
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Müs wrote:
Khross wrote:
Everyone is religious, so ...


No, not everyone is.


I agree with Khross, if I understand his meaning.

While everyone may not believe in a god, everyone worships something. I've never met someone who didn't. Be it a god, themself, money, sex, knowledge, or whatever, there is something in everyone's life that they worship. This makes everyone religious in some way or another.

Author:  Raell [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:56 am ]
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Not worship. Believe is the word you are looking for.

If you believe there is no god, they give you the label of 'atheists' and say that is your religion.

Author:  Talya [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:28 am ]
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I disagree with Khross. Not everyone "believes" anything, not in the religious sense. Not everyone "worships" anything.

Khross believes that religion is some mythical psychological construct that enables people to function within society, and that everyone has one, and that everyone needs one.

I suspect his belief is pretty much shite. Religion is something far more specific, and humans need no such thing. We're social herd creatures. We function well within human society by default, by instinct. We don't "need" religion anymore than my parrot does.

Author:  Khross [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:33 am ]
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"Religion" is how people rationalize their place in the entirety of existence: it's how we explain it all. People need to stop tying religion and spirituality, dogma and faith into a neat little packaging, calling it something pretty, and then conflating it with social philosophy. It doesn't do them any good.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:57 am ]
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Neither do semantic derails. You know what he meant.

Author:  Aizle [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:03 am ]
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But there's an axe. And it NEEDS grinding...

Author:  Talya [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:07 am ]
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Khross wrote:
"Religion" is how people rationalize their place in the entirety of existence: it's how we explain it all. People need to stop tying religion and spirituality, dogma and faith into a neat little packaging, calling it something pretty, and then conflating it with social philosophy. It doesn't do them any good.


People do not need to "rationalize their place in the entirety of existence" any more than birds need to "rationalize their place in the entirety of existence." That's philosophical garbage. We're no different than the other creatures we share this planet with. We don't have special psychological needs.

Religion didn't form to fill some special human psychological need. It formed as a means of control, to gain power, to gain advantage over others. It is just another form of human social power structure.

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