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Author: | shuyung [ Tue May 29, 2012 2:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Remember climate change? |
Apparently, the more you know, the more skeptical you are. The Register wrote: Spoiler: note: Lost some formatting, bolding is preserved from the original. |
Author: | Talya [ Tue May 29, 2012 3:36 pm ] |
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Wow. |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue May 29, 2012 3:40 pm ] |
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Par for the course. |
Author: | Rynar [ Tue May 29, 2012 3:43 pm ] |
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Sadly, while **** like should startle you, I find myself totally unsurprised. |
Author: | Talya [ Tue May 29, 2012 5:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Remember climate change? |
Wait a sec ... educated, scientifically minded people are more skeptical, while the uneducated believe every word that Who'd have thunk it? |
Author: | shuyung [ Tue May 29, 2012 5:29 pm ] |
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No, see, you've drawn exactly the wrong conclusion. This is why you need to be re-educated. |
Author: | Slythe [ Tue May 29, 2012 6:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Remember climate change? |
Aside from the obvious bias revealed in the wording, and the attempt at obfuscation and just pure babble, the article doesn't actually dispute the veracity of the results of all the scientists who have studied the issue, as the veracity of scientific results are not dependent on popular opinion. As an example, just because some 'psychologists, sociologists', and others might use an 'underhanded' strategy in attempting to convince the populace that the world is round, that doesn't negate the truth of their message. Also, I don't agree with the claim that the message has until now been to merely 'present the science'. Very few people ever actually read all the true scientific papers on any given issue. It seems to me the message has been basically 'HIGW is happening, we've measured an increase in temperatures over time, glaciers are melting'. That's hardly the true science of it. |
Author: | Corolinth [ Tue May 29, 2012 6:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Remember climate change? |
You have to understand that "soft sciences" are not real science. That's why we put them in the Humanities buildings. It stands to reason they would be willing to throw science education under a bus to advance the global climate change agenda. The only way they can sell themselves as real scientists is if nobody alive knows the difference. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Remember climate change? |
Some soft sciences are real sciences. If the approach is to use scientific methods of research, then its a science no matter how hard it may be to actually get a grip on what's being studied. What building they are located in says more about campus layout and budgeting than about what's a science and what isn't. |
Author: | Micheal [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:41 pm ] |
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Still think it is all part of the climate cycle. Climate change happens throughout history, since well before we had the ability to affect it, or for that matter, any members of the hominid line existed. |
Author: | Hannibal [ Tue May 29, 2012 7:59 pm ] |
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No no no no no no no. Al Gore said the issue was settled. Then he waved his hand over the discrepencies and all was well. If the Republicans/Tea Party/Right wingers/scapegoat of the week would just get out of Obamas way, he would refreze the ice caps and make it a nice 72.5 degrees year round. |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue May 29, 2012 8:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Remember climate change? |
Corolinth wrote: You have to understand that "soft sciences" are not real science. That's why we put them in the Humanities buildings. It stands to reason they would be willing to throw science education under a bus to advance the global climate change agenda. The only way they can sell themselves as real scientists is if nobody alive knows the difference. There's something snarky to be said about Rasmussen et al. having a firmer grip on margin of error and sample size than "climate scientists" in here, but damned if I can figure out how to do it to my satisfaction. It'd probably help if more "climate scientists" were, you know, like geologists or physicists or something. Then you could maybe do something with "political science" being more rigorous than "hard sciences" these days... I don't know, I've got nuthin'. |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:54 am ] |
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Becoming more knowledgeable about science requires skepticism. I don't read this as educated people thinking it's wrong, they just learned that science is rarely that definitive for this sort of thing, and to recognize conflicting evidence. All these researches accomplished was discovering what politicians already knew. If you want to persuade the public, listing facts and citing studies is not the easiest way to do it. So, expect more "think of the children". |
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