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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Physical punishement and children. |
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/us/new-yo ... ?hpt=hp_c1 These little shits make a good case for it. Few things actually move me, but the **** abuse these middle schoolers are thowing at an elderly woman really angers me. I can not immagine what sort of punishement my parents would have delivered had I acted in that fashion at that age, granted it would not have been necessary because they raised me not to be like that. Sadly I feel like this is the first signs of the internet culture comming live. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l93wAqnPQwk |
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| Author: | Slythe [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Well that was an unfortunate way for me to start my day. And many kids who are cruel don't really get disciplined and become adults who are cruel, largely because most people are cowardly, sycophantic, pack-mentality-following, amoral twats. |
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| Author: | Foamy [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:21 am ] |
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Haven't watched the video, but read the story. IF (big IF) my children ever participate in something even remotely like this (they'll know better), the will NOT get away with such behavior. Discipline will be swift and just. The parents of these kids should be horribly ashamed. |
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| Author: | Dash [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
On the bright side the kids involved were named and shamed and people raised quite a bit of money for the woman: http://jalopnik.com/buslopnik/ |
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| Author: | LadyKate [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:59 am ] |
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I read a headline or two but I won't read the article or watch the video because I would cry, and I hate crying. I did hear that people gave her $60k in donations though. And for the record, if any of my kids participated in that sort of abuse, I would beat the tar out of them, take away every nice thing they have, and commit them to community service and making amends to the person they abused. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:30 am ] |
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If my kid did that I would disown them and put them up for adoption. |
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| Author: | RangerDave [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Oh man: Local News wrote: Klein said the comment that hurt the most was when the kids said "you're so ugly your kid should kill themselves." Her son took his life 10 years ago. Not that the kids knew about her son, but no wonder the woman cried at that point. |
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| Author: | LadyKate [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
RangerDave wrote: Oh man: Local News wrote: Klein said the comment that hurt the most was when the kids said "you're so ugly your kid should kill themselves." Her son took his life 10 years ago. Not that the kids knew about her son, but no wonder the woman cried at that point.  That is horrid.
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:26 am ] |
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Ah mob behavior. Everyone thinks they'd 'never do that sort of thing' until they do. I agree the behavior is despicable, but adults do this sort of thing too. Its easy to dismiss them as 'bad apples' etc. but the reality as demonstrated by Milgram, the Stanford Prison experiment,or even Hofling Hospital Experiment demonstrate that people are falsely confident about their own ability to resist social pressures to behave a particular way, even if they know it to be wrong. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
This doesn't end in middle school, sadly. In college I had a professor who was a Vietnam veteran with pretty obvious PTSD, and many of the students chose to amuse themselves by making loud noises and watching him freak the **** out every time. |
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| Author: | Foamy [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:41 am ] |
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TheRiov wrote: Ah mob behavior. Everyone thinks they'd 'never do that sort of thing' until they do. I agree the behavior is despicable, but adults do this sort of thing too. Its easy to dismiss them as 'bad apples' etc. but the reality as demonstrated by Milgram, the Stanford Prison experiment,or even Hofling Hospital Experiment demonstrate that people are falsely confident about their own ability to resist social pressures to behave a particular way, even if they know it to be wrong. You're comparing a bunch of middle school kids to the adults in these studies? I pulled this from a list my cousin posted on Facebook titled "15 things a boy should know before he turns 18" and I plan on ingraining this in my son: Quote: You will never know a stronger pull than that of your friends trying to get you to participate in their wrong doing. Resisting makes you a man. Succumbing makes you a coward. I hope I can successfully teach my son this. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:43 am ] |
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Foamy wrote: You're comparing a bunch of middle school kids to the adults in these studies? Absolutely. Both examples of behavior they knew to be wrong, but given some sort of social pressure. (in the experimental cases, its largely about authority, instead of peers, but its still classic mob behavior.) A perception that their behavior is excused or normal, tends to shatter people's sense of right & wrong. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 am ] |
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Choose your "friends" wisely... |
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| Author: | Gilraen [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
I read the articles but I won't watch the videos. Who needs that kind of deja vu? How many decades have passed since I went through that kind of sh*t, yet an article like that brings it all back like a slam to the face. I had a talk with my kids when they were at that age about bullying. They were aghast that I even had to ask, but I did have to make sure. Would they have been punished if I found out they were bullying? Oh hell yeah.  "You are punished even after you die!" Penny Pingleton's father -- Hairspray |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
The Milgram experiments are not examples of mob behavior. The fact that the bus requires a monitor in addition to the driver in the first place speaks volumes. Children have the system figured out. Look at the one kid "sitting back, waiting for his punishment." He's going to take his punishment, then spend the rest of his school career chortling with glee that he made it onto YouTube. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:45 pm ] |
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Something I pointed out myself. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:24 pm ] |
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Wow. Over half a million bucks donated. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:25 pm ] |
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FarSky wrote: Wow. Over half a million bucks donated. I was bullied by middle schoolers too... |
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| Author: | Raltar [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:26 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: FarSky wrote: Wow. Over half a million bucks donated. I was bullied by middle schoolers too... Become an old woman and put it on youtube. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:16 pm ] |
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I read this as "physical punishment - children" as in children are a form of physical punishment. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Some societies consider them to be God's punishment for sexual intercourse. And now for a solution to this menace: |
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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18877814/s ... ting-pools I swear it is the hormonal imbalance of middle schoolers that is just creating such fine events. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Uncle Fester wrote: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18877814/students-toss-garbage-into-911-memorial-reflecting-pools I swear it is the hormonal imbalance of middle schoolers that is just creating such fine events. Wait, that is what we ended up doing with ground zero? |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Whats wrong the the pools? I think they look awesome. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Physical punishement and children. |
Lenas wrote: Whats wrong the the pools? I think they look awesome. Nothing's *wrong* with them (though, it is kind of morbid to make the memorial for an attack a hole in the ground), but I was posting more out of surprise that anything had been decided on/completed with little enough fanfare that it completely escaped my notice. |
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