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| Author: | Hopwin [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mississippi shuts down abortion |
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/11/us/missis ... hpt=hp_bn1 Lengthy article but MS has effectively banned abortions by requiring all providers to A) Have hospital privileges and B) Be an OB/GYN. Reading through it I had a question I was hoping someone could answer: Quote: Mississippi is one of the toughest states for the abortion-rights movement. Its laws require a 24-hour waiting period, as well as parental consent if the patient seeking an abortion is a minor. Seven other states require abortion providers to have hospital privileges, but no other state requires that an abortion provider be an OB/GYN, according to the Guttmacher Institute in Washington, a sexual and reproductive health organization. What kind of degrees/specialities do these providers have if not OB/GYN? |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:42 pm ] |
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Vacuum salesman. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:08 pm ] |
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Lpn, general md or do. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
It's not the OB/GYN requirement that shut down abortions, it's the requirement that abortionists be both OB/GYNs and have treatment privileges at a local hospital. Abortion clinics in Mississippi all have their abortionists commute in from out of state. In-state doctors won't work there, they get way too much **** directed at them, not to mention death threats and occasional assaults. Since they're coming from out of state they don't have local hospital privileges, and the local governments do everything they can to prevent them from getting them. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:07 pm ] |
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Source? |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:19 pm ] |
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I'm sure he got it from the daily liberal conspiracy theory page. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:47 pm ] |
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Rynar wrote: Source? The story above is the source of X's info. I am still shocked no other state requires an ob/gyn. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:33 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: I am still shocked no other state requires an ob/gyn. Why does this shock you? |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:41 pm ] |
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On the one hand, ob/gyn seems like a reasonable requirement. On the other hand, it seems excessive to require some form of specialization for every procedure. I probably would have been delivered by my mother's general practitioner, except she went into the hospital around midnight, and I was born at 2am. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm ] |
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Müs wrote: Hopwin wrote: I am still shocked no other state requires an ob/gyn. Why does this shock you? If the brakes on my car die, I go to a brake specialist, not an exhaust guy. Why would you treat your body to a lesser degree of care? |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Yeah but you could also go to a regular mechanic and get the job done just as well. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:55 pm ] |
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Their state their rules for 500? |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
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Rorinthas wrote: FIFY |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Where does the idea it's wrong to steal come from? How about to kill? To lie? Moving on, If it wasn't wanted by those living in the state, you'd see a move to change it by those in their state or a mass exodus. Also I don't know what reason I've given you to curse at me. I know it's Hellfire and you are within your rights to do do, but /shrug. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Rorinthas wrote: Where does the idea it's wrong to steal come from? How about to kill? To lie? Centuries worth of society? Religion is not the source of those things. Rorinthas wrote: Also I don't know what reason I've given you to curse at me. I know it's Hellfire and you are within your rights to do do, but /shrug. I wasn't cursing at you when I typed that, it was aimed at the small minority of religious folks that managed to pull off this little stunt in MS. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:07 am ] |
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That tiny minority who elected their officials to pack both sides of the state house and the governorship? Those cheeky bastards! |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Aizle wrote: ...it was aimed at the small minority of religious folks that managed to pull off this little stunt in MS. You're a lousy shot... |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Midgen wrote: You're a lousy shot... My last trip to the range disagrees with you. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:49 am ] |
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We have requirements on what doctors can perform other procedures, so the OB-GYN requirement for this doesn't seem horribly out of line. I might have widened it a little to include some other specialties, but the idea itself is sound. As is the requirement to have privileges at a nearby hospital- sounds like a reasonable requirement that you should be able to treat and admit your patient there if something goes wrong. I think the same requirement is going to hold for outpatient surgical clinics and local hospitals some places. That said, both of them together in this context do put quite a damper on the availability of abortion in the state, so I'm torn. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Rorinthas wrote: Moving on, If it wasn't wanted by those living in the state, you'd see a move to change it by those in their state or a mass exodus. Bad argument. It's the role of government to protect the minority. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Why does Mississippi still exist? Nuke the state from orbit and be done with it. |
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| Author: | Nitefox [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
So basically some people in this thread think lk and I are **** and want us and our families nuked. And folks gripe at me for my attitude in these boards at times. Good times. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
I wish you didn't live there, but I wont apologize for wanting to rid our country of the fattest and dumbest state we have. Nothing to do with you personally, you're neither stupid nor fat. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
Nitefox wrote: So basically some people in this thread think lk and I are **** and want us and our families nuked. Your inferences could use some work. |
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| Author: | Nitefox [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mississippi shuts down abortion |
NephyrS wrote: Your inferences could use some work. How so? |
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