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So going that route doesn't score Mitt any points in your eyes?

I'm not so sure. Ryan's a smart guy. I think he can effectively communicate the rationale behind his plan, which wouldn't affect a single active Floridian retiree.

American's don't want honesty about our fiscal situation or hard decisions that solve problems. They want catchy slogans and someone else to blame.

Romney was picked to loose.

Corolinth wrote:

Romney was picked to loose.

Interesting choice, considering how scripted and rigid he is.

Joking aside, you can easily see how many people voted for him in the primaries. So no - he was not picked to lose.

The only way Obama could have been unseated would have been for a Republican to ride on Teabagger support. Considering that Obama is continuing all of Bush's policies, the last thing the Republicans want is for someone new to come in and **** everything up. So, you get a milkdud like Romney that you think you approved of in the Primary.

Corolinth wrote:

This is totally absurd.

I see it as entirely plausible. Until Rubio is ready, do the Republicans want to be the party that beat the second black president we've had?

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:10 am ]
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Anyone have any thoughts on the VP pick? I like him. I figured Romney would go as uncontroversial as possible, but I was wrong.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:32 am ]
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Could be worse? Romney and Ryan really need to start talking though or the other side will paint their views on the economy (Such as the Myth that Ryan wants to gut Social Security/ Medicare)

Author:	Rynar [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:02 am ]
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Romeny is lagging behind in most polls, and Obama's attacks have started taking their toll, so Romney was forced into this pick as a rally point for his base. It will work in the short term, as this move should coincide with a shift towards going on the attack. However, in the long term this selection costs him the election. The American people don't want solutions and hard decisions, they want blame based American Idol politics, and Ryan represents the former.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:16 pm ]
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So going that route doesn't score Mitt any points in your eyes?

Author:	Rynar [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:35 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote: So going that route doesn't score Mitt any points in your eyes? I'm not an undecided voter. Mitt pandered this base to stop a mild poll drop 3 months from election day. The average American won't even begin paying attention to the race for another 60 days. It was the pick he had to make today because The Chicago Machine forced his hand, but the choice costs him Florida and therefore the election.

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Author:	Diamondeye [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:57 pm ]
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No prediction can reasonably be made. Four years ago, we were being loudly told it was Giuliani vs. Clinton, and Clinton was going to win. The only thing we can be certain of at this point is an Obama/Biden democrat ticket.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:54 pm ]
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I'm not so sure. Ryan's a smart guy. I think he can effectively communicate the rationale behind his plan, which wouldn't affect a single active Floridian retiree.

Author:	Rynar [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:35 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote: I'm not so sure. Ryan's a smart guy. I think he can effectively communicate the rationale behind his plan, which wouldn't affect a single active Floridian retiree. American's don't want honesty about our fiscal situation or hard decisions that solve problems. They want catchy slogans and someone else to blame.

Author:	Rafael [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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Americans don't understand opportunity costs or how productiveness and investment work. They don't know what they want because they don't understand the ramifications of what they ask.

Author:	Uncle Fester [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:52 pm ]
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Convention suprise, Clinton (either ) to replace Biden.

Author:	Micheal [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:01 pm ]
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I'd rather not see Ryan a heartbeat away from the most dangerous job on the planet. In my gut, my feeling is he's too likely to abuse the power. No I can't back that up to show you why, just a gut instinct. I'm also wondering how many more wars those two will get us in to distract us from the immense consolidation of wealth into the hands of the privileged few. Both are too wealthy, too intimately tied to the accumulation of money to have a balanced outlook on the needs of the 99%. We're going to take it in the shorts again in an R&R regime.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:28 pm ]
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Rynar wrote: American's don't want honesty about our fiscal situation or hard decisions that solve problems. They want catchy slogans and someone else to blame. some do. I don't think that's everyone though. I guess we'll find out.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:46 pm ]
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Anyone with enough resources and free time to complain on the Internet is part of the 1% yes I'm aware that means me too.

Author:	Jasmy [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:22 pm ]
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Rynar and Rafael... I assume you are both Americans so I will also assume you are including yourselves in your generalizations.

Author:	Micheal [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 am ]
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Yes, but depending on the tides of fate and how they treat the next few months, he has a slight chance of winning. Not much of one, and he'll have to take lessons from the Bush clan on how to steal elections, but it could happen.

Author:	Dash [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:49 am ]
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I like Romney marginally more than Obama, which is not a ringing endorsement. I like Ryan a whole hell of a lot more than Obama. He actually seems a decent guy for a politician. He's certainly smart and he's got balls enough to give a specific plan when everyone knows specifics on entitlement reform and budget cutting means you're going to be savaged by your opponents and the liberal press. I dont know if they can or will win, but I would much rather go down fighting the good fight. I disagree that Florida is instantly lost with this pick. In NJ I have seen first hand that being straight up with people can work. You can't be as radical as some might want in reducing the debt and deficit, but you can stop the momentum towards the fiscal cliff and push back the other way. This is the prudent way to do it, liberals learned incrementalism a while ago and it's worked for them.

Author:	Wwen [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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It's good for Ryan, as it puts him in a better position to run for president after Big Os 2nd.

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Author:	Corolinth [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:28 am ]
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Romney was picked to loose.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:13 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote: Romney was picked to loose. Interesting choice, considering how scripted and rigid he is. Joking aside, you can easily see how many people voted for him in the primaries. So no - he was not picked to lose.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:01 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote: Corolinth wrote: Romney was picked to loose. Interesting choice, considering how scripted and rigid he is. Joking aside, you can easily see how many people voted for him in the primaries. So no - he was not picked to lose. But did they vote for him because they wanted to vote for him, or because media and pundits told them he had the best chance of beating Obama? If it's the latter, then suggesting he was picked to lose (and then pitched as winnable) is a perfectly valid position.

Author:	Corolinth [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:10 pm ]
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The only way Obama could have been unseated would have been for a Republican to ride on Teabagger support. Considering that Obama is continuing all of Bush's policies, the last thing the Republicans want is for someone new to come in and **** everything up. So, you get a milkdud like Romney that you think you approved of in the Primary.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:06 pm ]
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You are way overestimating the organization of people and their ability to keep their mouth shut.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:04 am ]
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Corolinth wrote: The only way Obama could have been unseated would have been for a Republican to ride on Teabagger support. Considering that Obama is continuing all of Bush's policies, the last thing the Republicans want is for someone new to come in and **** everything up. So, you get a milkdud like Romney that you think you approved of in the Primary. This is totally absurd.

Author:	Hannibal [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:37 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: Corolinth wrote: The only way Obama could have been unseated would have been for a Republican to ride on Teabagger support. Considering that Obama is continuing all of Bush's policies, the last thing the Republicans want is for someone new to come in and **** everything up. So, you get a milkdud like Romney that you think you approved of in the Primary. This is totally absurd. I see it as entirely plausible. Until Rubio is ready, do the Republicans want to be the party that beat the second black president we've had?

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:48 pm ]
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Hannibal wrote: I see it as entirely plausible. Until Rubio is ready, do the Republicans want to be the party that beat the second black president we've had? I see what you did there.