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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:39 am 
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This is not what I pictured (NOT A JOKE, ACTUAL VESSELL BELOW)
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/mo ... ?hpt=hp_t3

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Yes it really is a tugboat with a medical waste dumpster strapped to it...


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The government of Morocco has closed the port of Smir and is blocking the harbor with warships to prevent the entry of a Dutch "abortion ship" to the Islamic country, the organization running the ship said Thursday.

Abortion is illegal in Morocco, and the country's Health Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday that it had not authorized the vessel's visit or any procedures by nonresident doctors.

The abortion ship is run by Women on Waves, which was founded in 1999 by a Dutch doctor to provide abortions to women in countries where the practice is illegal.

Women on Waves doctor Marlies Schellekens told CNN that she and about 10 other members of her group and Alternative Movement for Individual Freedoms, the Moroccan activist group that invited the abortion ship to Morocco, are trying to make their way to the harbor in Smir.

The main entrance has been blocked by police; a female Moroccan lawyer representing the group is trying to negotiate with officers to let the group enter, Schellekens said. Dutch lawmaker Liesbeth van Tongeren is also with the group, she said.

The abortion ship has not yet tried to enter the port, she said.

The Women on Waves ship takes women into international waters to perform the abortions, which are legal under Dutch law, until 6.5 weeks into the pregnancy.

Gunilla Kleiverda, a Women on Waves gynecologist aboard the vessel, stressed that point in an interview with CNN on Thursday.

“I will not be practicing as a gynecologist in Morocco," Kleiverda said.

“We are not going to perform any abortions within Morocco. We are sailing out with women to international waters where in the international sea the Dutch law applies," she said.

Women on Waves also advocates the use of a drug called misoprostol, which it says is available legally in Morocco, to perform abortions up to 12 weeks after conception. The group says it is establishing a phone hotline in Morocco for women to get information on how to perform the abortions at home.

Kleiverda said Moroccan women need access to safe abortions. About 90 women die from illegal abortions in the country every year, she said.

The ship has previously taken the campaign to Ireland, Poland, Portugal and Spain, but this is its first attempt to offer abortions in an Islamic country.

Women on Waves said on its website that it is looking into alternatives to get the ship into port in Morocco after the Smir harbor was blocked.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:48 am 
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They're lucky the port didn't let them in so they could be stoned to death while in port.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:53 am 
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Be careful guys, Morocco has 'em!

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I am pretty sure the Canadian Navy could sink the dumpster barge with their naval armaments

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Morocco has a navy?

Its actually a good thing. **** backwards *** barbarian countries.

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I don't really understand some people.

Don't think a fetus is a person? Ok, I get that.
Think a woman should be able to make her own decisions on the matter? Ok, I get that.

When you get to the point where you are so into abortions that you create this ship, or like the woman I saw the other day who was not pregnant but heard about a pro-abortion ruling and stated "she was so happy she could cry", I've lost you.

I mean - that's just sick.


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I bet you've got sharks following that ship from port to port.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I don't really understand some people.

Don't think a fetus is a person? Ok, I get that.
Think a woman should be able to make her own decisions on the matter? Ok, I get that.

When you get to the point where you are so into abortions that you create this ship, or like the woman I saw the other day who was not pregnant but heard about a pro-abortion ruling and stated "she was so happy she could cry", I've lost you.

I mean - that's just sick.


I agree with this. To be fair, the ship supposedly only does early-term abortions, but still, the fact that you think abortions are so important that you're making a ship to go around and perform them really makes you have to wonder. If it's some sort of "Awareness" thing then.. well, it's backfiring because as soon as you hear "Abortion ship" there's a major "ewwww" factor.

As for the Harpoon missile, that was just being snarky but in all seriousness, there should be no more controversy over Morocco exercising its sovereign right to decide which ships it will allow at its ports than there is over New Zealand not allowing nuclear armed or powered vessels to dock. I don't particularly agree with either one of them, but if the ship insisted on docking anyhow Morocco would theoretically be within her rights to (after appropriate warning) blow her out of the water.

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Let's set the abortion issue aside a moment.

You have a boat that professes that its coming to into port with the express purpose of breaking multiple laws and having unlicensed doctors preforming medical procedures.

while the countries response seems a bit overwhelming for one little boat, they have their right to have their sovereignty respected.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:10 am 
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I don't think Morocco actually threatened to sink the ship; I was just pointing out that they could. The only thing Morocco has done so far is block the harbor.

There's an issue of maritime law here that, in my view, is far more important than abortion. Any country has the right as a basic facet of its sovereignty to make the rules under which ships and aircraft arrive and depart.

As to the ship performing illegal procedures, technically they aren't going to do that. They're going out into international waters, and out there the Captain of the ship's word is law. However, if Morocco wants to deny entry in the first place, they can do that.

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Replace breaking with skirting then.

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