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Author:  Lex Luthor [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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Is anyone else extremely surprised? It reminds me of Arnold Schwarzenegger actually. Both have always been super ambitious and heavily into fitness.

Author:  Micheal [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:06 pm ]
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No, not really surprised. The fall ability of men and women rarely surprises me. What does please me about the whole thing is his resignation because he realizes it showed poor judgement and loss of honor. I'm still impressed by the man overall.

Author:  Midgen [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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That might be one of the least surprising headlines I've read in a while...

Author:  FarSky [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:25 pm ]
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I still don't understand (well, I understand, but I wish I didn't) why things like this are "news."

Does this impact his ability to do his job? Not in the least. This should be between Petraeus and his wife, not played out on a national stage.

Author:  Nitefox [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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I thinks it's interesting that now he isn't going to testify for the Benghazi hearings.

Author:  Nitefox [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:31 pm ]
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The other woman has been identified as Paula Broadwell, author of All In: The Education of General David Petraeus

Also this...

Author:  Diamondeye [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:34 pm ]
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In a high public position, it affects his ability to do his job because the view is if you'll cheat on your spouse, what else will you do? This is doubly true in highly sensitive areas like intelligence. By resigning, he protects himself from suspicion of other impropriety.

Author:  Midgen [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:16 pm ]
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FarSky wrote:
I still don't understand (well, I understand, but I wish I didn't) why things like this are "news."

Does this impact his ability to do his job? Not in the least. This should be between Petraeus and his wife, not played out on a national stage.


No one is perfect. We all make mistakes. This incident reflects on his integrity and credibility in a job where both of those are in high demand.

There is no way to know if he was 'asked' to resign, or if he just decided it was 'the best thing to do'. The timing is suspicious, as Nitefox noted.

Author:  Rynar [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:19 pm ]
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When you admit to something like this in your resignation, it's because if you don't, someone else is planning to use it against you. Patreaus "stole the weapon". Who did he steal it from, and why?

Author:  Midgen [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:13 am ]
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This is why he is no longer Director.

http://news.yahoo.com/cia-director-petr ... 18014.html

Yahoo! News wrote:
The Washington Post reported on Saturday that the FBI probe was triggered when Broadwell sent threatening emails to an unidentified woman close to the CIA director.

The woman went to the FBI, which traced the threats to Broadwell and then uncovered explicit emails between Petraeus and Broadwell, the Post said.


Yahoo! News wrote:
Once Petraeus' name turned up in the investigation, the importance of the FBI inquiry was immediately escalated, as investigators became concerned the CIA chief somehow might have been compromised, the law enforcement official said.


You can't be in a position with that much responsibility with that kind of baggage hanging over your head. It puts him at risk of being blackmailed. He knows this. Every military and intelligence person knows this. He knew it would cost him his job, and likely his marriage, and yet he did it anyway.

Additionally, the woman he had the affair with also just happens to be an Officer in the Reserves.

He did the right thing by stepping down.

Author:  Khross [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:14 am ]
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The Chris Stevens situation and the Benghazi Incident should have Obama behind bars.

Author:  Aethien [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:12 am ]
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Big head, little head. Doesn't surprise me at all. This is what powerful people (men) do, apparently.

Author:  Elmarnieh [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:49 am ]
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Sure its what they do so why don't they all resign when its known? It's come out Holder knew about this summer so I can easily see this is a "shut up about it until after the election and then resign so you don't testify".

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:31 am ]
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FarSky wrote:
I still don't understand (well, I understand, but I wish I didn't) why things like this are "news."

Does this impact his ability to do his job? Not in the least. This should be between Petraeus and his wife, not played out on a national stage.


The CIA does not tolerate potentially compromising circumstances in either your personal or professional lives.

He was correct to resign, and I award him two points. I deduct two points for cheating on his spouse.

Author:  Talya [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:37 am ]
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The Petraeus Affair


This sounds like the title of a bad Ludlum novel. (Not that there's any good Ludlum novels.)

That is all. I'd ask who the hell Petraeus is, but I could google it if I cared. ;)

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:42 am ]
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Talya wrote:
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The Petraeus Affair


This sounds like the title of a bad Ludlum novel. (Not that there's any good Ludlum novels.)

That is all. I'd ask who the hell Petraeus is, but I could google it if I cared. ;)


One of our shiniest and most successful current generals.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:53 am ]
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Talya wrote:
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The Petraeus Affair


This sounds like the title of a bad Ludlum novel. (Not that there's any good Ludlum novels.)

That is all. I'd ask who the hell Petraeus is, but I could google it if I cared. ;)


He was the guy in charge of the Iraq occupancy for a long time.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:18 am ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Talya wrote:
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The Petraeus Affair


This sounds like the title of a bad Ludlum novel. (Not that there's any good Ludlum novels.)

That is all. I'd ask who the hell Petraeus is, but I could google it if I cared. ;)


One of our shiniest and most successful current generals.


Apparently not as shiny as we thought.

Author:  Khross [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:32 am ]
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What about the President? You wanna go after Petraeus for stickin' his dick in crazy? That's fine ...

Why not go after the only man in the country who could have given the order that resulted in Americans dying.

Author:  Stathol [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:33 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote:
In a high public position, it affects his ability to do his job because the view is if you'll cheat on your spouse, what else will you do?


This.

Midgen wrote:
You can't be in a position with that much responsibility with that kind of baggage hanging over your head. It puts him at risk of being blackmailed.


But mostly this.

I simply don't trust a man who cheats on his wife (whatever the circumstances) not to cheat on other things. But the more immediate practical concern is that a person with that kind of security access simply cannot have any skeletons in their closet that can be used as leverage against them.

Elmarnieh wrote:
It's come out Holder knew about this summer so I can easily see this is a "shut up about it until after the election and then resign so you don't testify".

The timing is certainly suspicious. Even Feinstein seems to be pretty incensed about it.

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:50 am ]
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Khross wrote:
What about the President? You wanna go after Petraeus for stickin' his dick in crazy? That's fine ...

Why not go after the only man in the country who could have given the order that resulted in Americans dying.


I'm not going after either.

Author:  Midgen [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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And then there is that whole 'disclosing classified information' problem...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/did ... 34673.html

Yahoo! News wrote:
A recent University of Denver address by Paula Broadwell has set off a torrent of speculation as to whether her affair with Gen. David Petraeus resulted in a leak of classified national security information.
New York magazine got things started by posting a video of Broadwell, author of Petraeus' biography, "All In," discussing details of the Sept. 11 attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, at the Oct. 26 talk.
In the video, since posted by several sources to YouTube, Broadwell states: "Now, I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted."
That clip has led some to speculate whether Broadwell was exposing previously unreported details about the attack.
Other major media outlets, including CBS News and The Daily Beast, have picked up on the video clip. Wired goes a step further, stating as fact that Broadwell did reveal new information, writing: "It was a surprising disclosure, given the deep classification of the CIA's detention policies—and the enormous political stakes surrounding the Benghazi assault. But in many ways, it was only natural for Broadwell, given her evolution from Petraeus protegee to biographer to paramour and unofficial spokesperson."
And Politico points to a July panel discussion at the Aspen Security Forum during which Broadwell claims to have had access to classified information and to have attended high-level security meetings with Petraeus.
However, Broadwell's sound bite could be entirely innocuous, New York magazine notes: "It's also possible that she just misunderstood something she heard on Fox News."
The Fox News Channel reference concerns a report FNC reporter Jennifer Griffin made earlier the same day as Broadwell's university address, in which Griffin cited sources claiming that the CIA was holding high-value detainees in the Benghazi facility at the time of the attack.
You can watch an excerpt from Broadwell's University of Denver address below:

Griffin has since updated her reporting, noting that a well-placed Washington source confirms that Libyan militiamen were being held at the CIA annex and may have been a possible reason for the attack. Multiple intelligence sources, she also reported, said "there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location."
The CIA has denied keeping militants at the facility. CIA spokesman Preston Golson said, "Any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless."
Basically, so far we have a lot of speculation, with individuals commenting on a potential national security leak concerning details of a situation the government says never took place. Stay tuned.


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Author:  Müs [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:15 pm ]
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She's cute.

Author:  Hopwin [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:17 pm ]
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Müs wrote:
She's cute.

+1

Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:08 pm ]
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How else would she get a man of 60 who is in as obviously good condition as Petraeus in bed when he's been married 38 years?

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