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Author: | Foamy [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:38 am ] |
Post subject: | NY Post uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
LINK Spoiler: Short version - Man was pushed from a subway platform in front of an oncoming train. A freelance photographer happened to be nearby and got pictures of the man struggling to get back on the platform. The man did not make it, was hit by the subway and died from his injuries. The picture was sold to the NY Post and was subsequently used as the cover image with the headline 'DOOMED - Pushed on the subway track, this man is about to die.' The photographer states that he was using his flash in an effort to warn the train driver. Don't know if I necessarily believe this, though. I know nothing about being a photojournalist, but I wonder if being in the profession that he is, his first instinct is to capture what he is seeing. Me, I am pretty sure I'd make what effort I could to help as I do not think I could stand by and watch someone die when there is the possibility my actions could save his life. Obviously there is quite an uproar about this and I'd be interested to hear others' opinions on this. EDIT - Forgot to mention the uproar about NY Post even using this picture especially since the man died from this. Should they have? Should they have shown decency in the face of this man's death? EDIT 2 - Corrected name of paper. (Thanks, Farsky) |
Author: | FarSky [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: NY Times uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
Just a point of correction...it's Rupert Murdoch/News Corp's tabloid-esque New York Post that ran the picture, not the New York Times. They were wrong to run the photo. |
Author: | Hopwin [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:44 am ] |
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I don't have a problem with it. To me the question you are asking is analogous to "should Google filter images of bodies and or people about to die?" If you don't want to see it (I don't) then don't buy the paper and don't click the links. |
Author: | Corolinth [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:00 am ] |
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What was the New York Post going to do to save the man? They weren't even there. For that matter, what was the photographer going to do? Jump down there and stop the train with his super strength? |
Author: | Foamy [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:25 am ] |
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Corolinth wrote: What was the New York Post going to do to save the man? They weren't even there. For that matter, what was the photographer going to do? Jump down there and stop the train with his super strength? How about try to offer an arm to help pull him up. The photographer, not the NY Post. I don't know if the photographer could have gotten to him in time, as a matter of fact I know nothing of the circumstances around whether he could have done anything to help. I'm questioning the morality of the photographer who made sure to capture the picture. He says that he was trying to alert the train conductor with his camera flash, but whether that is the truth is known by him alone. And yes, if he had super strength I would completely expect him to jump down there and stop the train. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: NY Post uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
I'm far more concerned with the fact that someone pushed the man onto the track. That said, they shouldn't have posted the picture. When people say "well if you don't like it, don't buy the paper" that's exactly why. People should refuse to buy the New york Post and thereby indicate their displeasure with this sort of tasteless sensationalism. It is not the same as Google filtering web content; Google is a search that finds other stuff other people have put on the internet. The Post is a paper; it has limited space and has to decide what material is important and what isn't, particularly on its front page. As for stopping the train, I'm sure the photographer wasn't the only person present, otherwise how'd this guy get pushed? Trains are notoriously hard to stop, and although a light commuter subway con stop a lot faster than, say, a freight train like in this recent incident. so getting him out of the way is really the only option. Generally, by the time an engineer sees a person or vehicle on the tracks, he cannot possibly stop unless he's moving very slowly or has an unusually small train. In a subway, the train is much smaller and lighter but also he can't see nearly as far. |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: NY Post uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
Diamondeye wrote: I'm sure the photographer wasn't the only person present, otherwise how'd this guy get pushed? Maybe... he pushed the guy to get a provocative photo? This reminds me of this photo from the Oklahoma City bombing: Spoiler: dying child Spoiler: It was everywhere, until the relatives asked for people to stop using it. Tasteless in the extreme. |
Author: | Midgen [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:24 pm ] |
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Not having been there, I can't really judge the photographer... especially if he is a freelance photographer... he's pretty much always on the job... I find posting the picture distasteful, but I pretty much find everything the NY Post publishes distasteful (in a general way). They are in the business of selling news(papers). If you don't like the way they go about this, don't subscribe, and don't give them link hits. |
Author: | FarSky [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:17 pm ] |
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There was a "deranged" man that pushed the victim onto the track, from what I've read. They've arrested the suspect. |
Author: | Elmarnieh [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:36 pm ] |
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Reality is tasteless. Publishing reality is the job of the media. |
Author: | FarSky [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:43 pm ] |
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Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. |
Author: | Talya [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:46 pm ] |
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Ultimately the question of "should" is decided by the effect of such things on their sales. |
Author: | Numbuk [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: NY Post uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
What about photos of the folks who (purposefully/accidentally) pushed this guy over? Let's get some involuntary manslaughter charges going here, at the very least. But I agree it's in poor taste to run a picture of a person whose life is snuffed moments later and capitalizing on it. But then I also thought it was in poor taste when the tv news showed the feed of the dead bodies of Saddam's son(s). |
Author: | Nitefox [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: NY Post uses picture of man about to be hit by subway |
Author: | shuyung [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:29 pm ] |
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One is a haunting image of man's inhumanity to man, the other is a travesty of journalism. Which is which? You make the call! |
Author: | Müs [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:02 pm ] |
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shuyung wrote: One is a haunting image of man's inhumanity to man, the other is a travesty of journalism. Which is which? You make the call! They could be both? |
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