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| Author: | Müs [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
Remember, no problem is so complex that the issues csn't be swept away with ridicule! Don't get me wrong, domestic legalization of pot I agree with, but Jack Chick tracts are no more palatable for legalized pot than for his point of view. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:09 pm ] |
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Didn't two people get shot to death on day 1 in Washington trying to rob a grower and his pre-teen son? |
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| Author: | Rafael [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:15 pm ] |
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Kind of with DE here. There is no stance so strong its detractors are worthy of ridicule as pompous as that. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:28 pm ] |
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Oh yeah here it is: http://www.opb.org/news/article/two-die ... operation/ |
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| Author: | Müs [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:43 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: Oh yeah here it is: http://www.opb.org/news/article/two-die ... operation/ Quote: Police say a homeowner shot two intruders as they were attempting to steal pot from a growing operation at the house. Yeah? And? Breaking and entering and larceny is *still* illegal. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:48 pm ] |
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Car stereos should be illegal because people try to steal them. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:54 pm ] |
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So the arguments that 1) legalizing it would reduce drug crimes and 2) supply would make it so cheap cartels would be cut out are both fuzzy bullshit told to make this path palatable? Cool. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:00 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: So the arguments that 1) legalizing it would reduce drug crimes and 2) supply would make it so cheap cartels would be cut out are both fuzzy bullshit told to make this path palatable? Cool. Wait... you expected both of these things to happen day 1? Especially since there *still* isn't a legal distribution path? You can't be that dense. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
LOL. Washington hasn't even come up with a way to distribute it yet. Way to jump to conclusions. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:35 pm ] |
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Oh sorry, must have misunderstood the giant oversimplification that started this thread, carry on! |
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| Author: | Rafael [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
There is no oversimplification. The eventual result of decriminalizing and "legalizing" marijuana for recreational use will be greatly reduced crime related to marijuana. This may result in transient criminal activity increase. As for the story, what exactly is tragic about what happened? A couple of criminals were shot by a law abiding citizen. Unfortunate he had to use force, but how is that different than any other robbery attempt? Regardless of what happens regarding the legality of marijuana, people will ccontinue to be robbed and the robbery may or may not involve marijuana. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2 |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
Hopefully there will be a reduction in marijuana crime, besides the reduction of no longer arresting people for posession. We are assuming the effect will be similar to prohibition. It might not be. We might see significantly smaller reductions in crime; we could luck out and get even better results. We can't however, say what will happen. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:28 pm ] |
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/ ... 2B20121214 |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:22 pm ] |
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What a **** coward. If he's deferring to the States on enforcement, then just FIX THE LAW. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
Interesting reply considering... Quote: * DOJ expected rule on pot policy soon - Holder * Congress to hold hearing on issue in early 2013 What a **** coward he is! |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:44 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: Interesting reply considering... Quote: * DOJ expected rule on pot policy soon - Holder * Congress to hold hearing on issue in early 2013 What a **** coward he is! He said the same **** to California in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011... |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:48 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: Interesting reply considering... Quote: * DOJ expected rule on pot policy soon - Holder * Congress to hold hearing on issue in early 2013 What a **** coward he is! Quote: * Says would not go so far as to say drug should be legal Yep. Coward. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First WA and CO... Next? The world! |
So the President isn't allowed to have personal opinions while respecting state rights. Got it. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:53 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: He said the same **** to California in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011... He has kept to what he told Californians. Personal use is not being pursued but businesses that are making profits and not following the rules certainly are. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:57 pm ] |
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The President also cannot unilaterally "fix" the law, nor order Congress to address it. As far as ficing the law goes, the fact that a few states have changed their laws does not mean the Federal law is "broken" and needs to be changed to accommedate either those states or the opinions of those favoring legalization. It's a matter for public and political debate at the state and federal level, regardless of your position on the issue. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:31 pm ] |
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Since when does the President care about state's rights. |
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