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Let's just say that the sequestration cuts are most likely being.. seriously embellished south of the border. As in La Migra won't be working, and if they do, they'll just let you go because there's no more money for deportation.

Predictably, we're totally swamped. Our station is swimming in aliens, and we were catching even more today, and even more got past us. And we won't even see the first real effects on manpower for another 3 weeks.

I'm not looking forward to splitting our manpower to avoid overtime. This is going to get dangerous.

If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886...

Vindicarre wrote:

If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886...

Clearly the founding fathers didn't take into account ~~automatic rifles~~ the waves of illegal immigrants that would be here in 2013. Is this argument ironic or just hypocritical from the left?

I don't think DE is concerned about the Chinese.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

When it's you and 8 ****, you're well into deadly force territory.

Diamondeye wrote:

When it's you and 8 ****, you're well into deadly force territory.

SAW says what?

If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886...

Hopwin wrote:

Vindicarre wrote:

If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886...

Clearly the founding fathers didn't take into account ~~automatic rifles~~ the waves of illegal immigrants that would be here in 2013. Is this argument ironic or just hypocritical from the left?

Those laws dealt with legal immigrants from a specific geographical area. I think sarcasm is the word you're looking for.

Lenas wrote:

I don't think DE is concerned about the Chinese.

I don't think the author of the poem on the Statue of Liberty was either.

There are good honest skilled people overseas wanting and waiting and doing it right and we're supposed to be sympathetic to the cheaters? They're just a bunch of people cutting in line, the least courteous type human being: those unwilling to wait their proper turn.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:40 pm ]
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Let's just say that the sequestration cuts are most likely being.. seriously embellished south of the border. As in La Migra won't be working, and if they do, they'll just let you go because there's no more money for deportation. Predictably, we're totally swamped. Our station is swimming in aliens, and we were catching even more today, and even more got past us. And we won't even see the first real effects on manpower for another 3 weeks. I'm not looking forward to splitting our manpower to avoid overtime. This is going to get dangerous.

Author:	Müs [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:02 pm ]
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Just **** shoot at them. They'll get the message soon enough.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:37 pm ]
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I'm fairly sure there's going to be some shooting before too long. When it's you and 8 ****, you're well into deadly force territory.

Author:	Müs [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:41 pm ]
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Way I see it, its an invasion. But that's just me.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:42 pm ]
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If you can arrange to get some infantry battalions down here....

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Author:	Müs [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:50 pm ]
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I was thinking armored cav. Or the guys with the helicopters. Garry Owen or something.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:55 pm ]
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Neither would be particularly well-suited to the task in question, although the helicopters would be better. Artillery would work well too. However, I don't think we're likely to start slaughtering women and children. I have no problem with dealing harshly with the adult males, but blowing up babies intentionally is.. not funny.

Author:	DFK! [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:56 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: Let's just say that the sequestration cuts are most likely being.. seriously embellished south of the border. As in La Migra won't be working, and if they do, they'll just let you go because there's no more money for deportation. Predictably, we're totally swamped. Our station is swimming in aliens, and we were catching even more today, and even more got past us. And we won't even see the first real effects on manpower for another 3 weeks. I'm not looking forward to splitting our manpower to avoid overtime. This is going to get dangerous. So, you're telling me there are consequences to the media constantly parroting the President's rhetoric about the harshness of the cuts? I mean, wow, 2.3% ~~cuts~~ reductions in planned spending and an overall increase in spending year over year. Don't get me wrong, I understand there are real consequences to reductions, but they're far, far overblown in the news, and it's not too surprising that that news has caught on over the border. Sorry for the troubles you're in though, DE.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 am ]
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Yes. However, the real problems will come in a few weeks when we do start having to cut manpower. The border will be far from totally open, but there will simply not be as many people available at any given time. The other problem is that the more people we catch, the more of us need to stay at the station and process them. That means fewer people in the field. It's actually worse than that, but it would take hours to explain all the details. The 2.3% cut is worse than it sounds because while it's 2.3% of everything, a lot of that everything is debt servicing, which is untouched. Then, there's the fact that everything the press says gets magnified by about x100 by some contrabandista who wants to make some money getting people across the river, and the sorts of people they smuggle are only too happy to believe them, and don't have the access to information to understand they're being lied to anyhow. These people call up their primo or tio or whoever here in the US and hear "Oh yeah, everyone can stay now! There's no more deportations!" A lot of it is a massive exercise in self-deception by the people who we actually catch.

Author:	Raell [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:27 am ]
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I still think Auto Turrets would be a good idea. I am sure there would be some kind of 'human rights' violations there but the way I feel... ****'em

Author:	Hannibal [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:08 am ]
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I'm sure the 1st Nugent infantry could be there in a day or so. I think you'd have to have bag limits. I'm on the side of invasion. At the very least property owners should have castle doctrine on their side.

Author:	Sam [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:11 pm ]
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I think we are all missing the boat on this one. What we should do, is hire the first wave of illegals (since they work for little) and make them guard the border for the following waves. I mean, you could hire 5 illegals for the price of 1 agent.....maybe more!

Author:	Hannibal [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:15 pm ]
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You can always hire one half the poor to kill the other half.

Author:	Aizle [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:49 pm ]
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Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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Author:	Vindicarre [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:12 pm ]
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If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886...

Author:	Lenas [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:17 pm ]
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I don't think DE is concerned about the Chinese.

Author:	Hopwin [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:33 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote: If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886... Clearly the founding fathers didn't take into account ~~automatic rifles~~ the waves of illegal immigrants that would be here in 2013. Is this argument ironic or just hypocritical from the left?

Author:	Vindicarre [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:48 pm ]
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Hopwin wrote: Vindicarre wrote: If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886... Clearly the founding fathers didn't take into account ~~automatic rifles~~ the waves of illegal immigrants that would be here in 2013. Is this argument ironic or just hypocritical from the left? Those laws dealt with legal immigrants from a specific geographical area. I think sarcasm is the word you're looking for. Lenas wrote: I don't think DE is concerned about the Chinese. I don't think the author of the poem on the Statue of Liberty was either.

Author:	Müs [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:38 pm ]
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Aizle wrote: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Yeah, no thanks. We have plenty of tired, poor, homeless wretched refuse as it is.

Author:	darksiege [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:03 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: When it's you and 8 ****, you're well into deadly force territory. SAW says what?

Author:	Müs [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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darksiege wrote: Diamondeye wrote: When it's you and 8 ****, you're well into deadly force territory. SAW says what? MQ-1 Reaper says HELLFIRE?

Author:	DFK! [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:36 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote: If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886... More importantly, we need the social net we had then. Immigrants really don't hurt us if we're not paying for them.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:01 pm ]
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Vindicarre wrote: Hopwin wrote: Vindicarre wrote: If only the US immigration laws were the same now as they were in 1886... Clearly the founding fathers didn't take into account ~~automatic rifles~~ the waves of illegal immigrants that would be here in 2013. Is this argument ironic or just hypocritical from the left? Those laws dealt with legal immigrants from a specific geographical area. I think sarcasm is the word you're looking for. Lenas wrote: I don't think DE is concerned about the Chinese. I don't think the author of the poem on the Statue of Liberty was either. I'm also not concerned with offending a poem written a hundred and thirty years ago, when we had entirely different needs. Clearly, the answer to our problems is hordes of unskilled workers. You know, since we're still establishing homestead farms in the plains and building transcontinental railroads as major national projects.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:51 pm ]
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There are good honest skilled people overseas wanting and waiting and doing it right and we're supposed to be sympathetic to the cheaters? They're just a bunch of people cutting in line, the least courteous type human being: those unwilling to wait their proper turn.

Author:	Xequecal [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:58 am ]
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Rorinthas wrote: There are good honest skilled people overseas wanting and waiting and doing it right and we're supposed to be sympathetic to the cheaters? They're just a bunch of people cutting in line, the least courteous type human being: those unwilling to wait their proper turn. Doing it "right" involves forking over more money than these people would earn in a lifetime if they stayed in Mexico.