DE, question for you. (And anyone else that wants to chime in really)

Is NK, and KJU a credible threat to the US? I have my own reasoning on this, and am interested in what y'all think.

The North Korean Threat

by Nicholas Irving · April 1, 2013 · Posted In: Op-Ed



Over the years, the United States has had its fair share of threats from North Korea. As of Friday, March 29, 2013, North Korea has issued yet another “grim” warning to the United States as their leader Kim Jong-un signed an order to put its nation’s rockets on a combat-ready status. A photo was then released to media outlets called, “US mainland strike plan.” In the photo, charts and pictures show rocket trajectories impacting Hawaii, Washington D.C., Los Angeles, and Austin Texas.

In the meantime, the United States also conducted their own regular military training exercises amid the threats. Two B-2 bombers, capable of carrying both a conventional and nuclear payload, conducted aerial operations in South Korea, dropping dummy munitions. Whether we are calling it a military exercise or not, I believe that it is a true way of flexing our military muscle.

Bluff or Not?

With so many threats thrown at us in the past years, and North Korea yet to fulfill their absurd rhetoric, I would like to go ahead and call their bluff. Although North Korea does in fact have long range missile capabilities, as far as being able to hit a target in the Continental United States, not so much. North Korea’s most potent long range missile, that we are aware of at this point, is known as the Taepodong-2. The Taepodong-2 is a long range, 2-3 stage missile, giving it a maximum effective range of 2,500 statute miles (2 stage), or 2,800 statute miles (3 stage). This missile would be capable of hitting Alaska at best.

But there is one big problem. On July 5, 2006, when the North Koreans tested this missile, it failed mid flight, approximately 40 seconds after launch. With this being said, it would be almost impossible for North Korea to land a missile in our backyard, unless they had some help from their neighboring big brothers, which is highly unlikely. Getting around our current surveillance would be quite the challenge.

The Deceleration of War?

On Saturday, March 30, 2013, North Korea’s Kim Jong-un issued a statement saying, “From this time on, the North-South relations will be entering the state of war and all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly.” As we all know, the United States has military bases located in South Korea, and most, if not all, have been in the region for quite some time.

Looking back to November 23, 2010, North Korea did in fact shell the South Korean island Yeonpyeongdo, so they are very capable of doing so again. Whether they will or not, no one can say with 100% certainty.

What If?

If North Korea was capable of successfully launching a missile with a trajectory headed for the United States, there are a few defense systems they would have to outsmart. On March 14, 2013, the United States beefed up its ICBM defense by deploying an additional 14 ground based interceptors to Alaska and California missile silos. Not only did we beef up our missile defense system here in the states, we also stacked up a few more in South Korea, the PAC-3 (Patriot Advanced Capabilities – 3). These missile defense systems are a surface to air missile battery capable of hitting missiles in flight from the ground with a hit rate that exceeds 70%, depending on who you ask.

Dealing With North Korea

This has been an ongoing topic not only throughout the military, but is also widely talked about amongst civilians. When dealing with North Korea, there are a ton of options I’m sure we have on the table, but due to their constant asinine threats, is it something we should take seriously?


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NK isn't even much of a threat to SK at this point. Without China's backing, we'd really be better off if he'd do something to give SK an excuse to invade.

They can do extremely serious damage to Seoul with chemical and conventional artillery munitions, although 500,000 rounds per hour seems exceedingly high since only their longest-ranged artillery and rockets can reach Seoul.

I don't know how the figure was obtained, but it's worth noting that the figure was 500,000 in the first hour, not per hour.

North Korea experts Victor Cha and David Kang posted on the website of Foreign Policy magazine late last month that the North can fire 500,000 rounds of artillery on Seoul in the first hour of a conflict.

North Korea's most threatening weapons are its 170 mm Koksan artillery guns, which are 14 meters long and can shoot conventional mortar ammunition 40 kilometers (25 miles). That's not quite enough to reach Seoul, which is 50 kilometers (30 miles) from the DMZ. But if they use rocket-assisted projectiles, the range increases to about 60 kilometers (37 miles). Chemical weapons fired from these guns could cause even greater mayhem.

Even so, not everyone believes North Korea could make good on its "sea of fire" threats. Security expert Roger Cavazos, a former U.S. Army officer, wrote in a report for the Nautilus Institute last year that, among other things, North Korea's big guns have a high rate of firing duds, pose more of a threat to Seoul's less populated outer suburbs, and would be vulnerable to counterattack as soon as they start firing and reveal their location.

Or we could be totally wrong about his ability to put a nuclear warhead on them, and then we could be looking at 40 kilotons over Honolulu or Juneau or Fairbanks, or San Francisco.

I have to say, I'm increasingly of the opinion that we should take NK out before they have that capability for sure.

I have to say, I'm increasingly of the opinion that we should take NK out before they have that capability for sure.

I agree. Especially because the west could provide nominal support and let SK do most of the work.

**** just got real.

If only people really understood how nukes really work and their relation to the harmonic positioning of the Sun (otherwise you get a dirty bomb) in order for them to explode correctly.

This illusion of nuke wars is a joke and is basically near impossible because they already can calculate the needed positioning for a detonation in advance. This why they placed them in subs and left them roaming the ocean ordered to reach certain locations at an exact moment in time. These subs are needed to at these calculated locations at exact times in-order for the bomb to reach the correct detonation location for it to be in harmonic relation with the Sun.

This is why when they dropped the bombs on Japan the bombers were circling above the cities for sometime before dropping the bombs in-order to get the timing right and target location exact. Because if it's a conventional bomb like they say, they didn't need to do that, they could've dropped it anywhere and they didn't need to spend months in the desert practicing dropping bombs into a 300 yard circle.

Anyone who wants to understand these principles can read up on Bruce Cathie, as he's been predicting bombs tests for the last 50 years.