Hopwin wrote:
Khross wrote:
Hopwin:
Considering that Fascism was an implementation of socialist populism in Italy and socialist nationalism in Germany, I fail to see how they were mutually exclusive.
Then to be correct, you would have to say that he is an Italian or German fascist. Fascism by definition is when the state controls all (or the bulk of) industry; socialism/communism is when the people/community own the means of production.
False, insofar as practical application is concerned.
Fascism involves private ownership of industry, with control and "oversight" from the government. It was created in Italy but evolved from there, so using "fascism" in general to describe Obama could be accurate without the "Italian fascist" label, because Obama and the administration are retaining private ownership of many companies but exerting operational influence through the czars.
Socialism should be considered distinct from communism, and there are very few national politicians in this country anymore whose advocated beliefs aren't at least 40% wholly socialist. While government might own the means of production under many forms of socialism, this is not true for all forms, and private property still exists.
Communism is technically ownership by "the people," but that's practically untenable. It is therefore ownership by "the state" and the abolition of private property typically accompanies this. Marx, the founder of Communism laid down 10 core tenets, of which, being generous, Obama espouses around 6. I could stretch it to 9 if I were playing to a different audience. Most national politicians support at least 2-3.
Hopwin wrote:
I am not picking on either side of the aisle. We have a lot of name calling right now but it is no worse than the Left was when Bush was in office, in fact it might even be slightly more tame.
I'm not worried about who you're picking on. I'm worried about the fact that you don't seem to realize that fascist or communist could be totally accurate labels, if imprecise, for our sitting president.
Again, this is why they don't refute those labels, they impugn the author.