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Author: | DFK! [ Tue May 14, 2013 8:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
Posted without comment: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... unamerican Key Excerpt: Quote: What of America? "We elected a black president and that means we are less racist now than we used to be. That's beautiful. But when you look at the prison industrial complex and the new Jim Crow: levels of massive unemployment and the decrepit unemployment system, indecent housing: white supremacy is still operating in the US, even with a brilliant black face in a high place called the White House. He is a brilliant, charismatic black brother. He's just too tied to Wall Street. And at this point he is a war criminal. You can't meet every Tuesday with a killer list and continually have drones drop bombs. You can do that once or twice and say: 'I shouldn't have done that, I've got to stop.' But when you do it month in, month out, year in, year out – that's a pattern of behaviour. I think there is a chance of a snowball in hell that he will ever be tried, but I think he should be tried and I said the same about George Bush. These are war crimes. We suffer in this age from an indifference toward criminality and a callousness to catastrophe when it comes to poor and working people."[Emphasis added]
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Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue May 14, 2013 9:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
Well, if he wants to make people sympathetic to Obama he's doing a good job. "War criminal" is the "sex offender" charge of international politics. It was a shitty idea when we used in at Nurnburg, and it's a shitty idea now. The other stuff he says is an even bigger joke. |
Author: | Khross [ Tue May 14, 2013 9:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
Every US President since Truman has been accused of war crimes, except the one who possibly committed a few. |
Author: | RangerDave [ Tue May 14, 2013 10:05 am ] |
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Well, he should be tried for war crimes; just not for the things West is complaining about. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue May 14, 2013 10:27 am ] |
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RangerDave wrote: Well, he should be tried for war crimes; just not for the things West is complaining about. No one should ever be tried for "war crimes", at least not in any court representing itself as anything but a kangaroo court run by the victors. |
Author: | Hopwin [ Tue May 14, 2013 10:28 am ] |
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I am confused, I thought the Nobel Peace Prize was a get-out-of-jail free card for War Crimes? |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue May 14, 2013 10:36 am ] |
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Hopwin wrote: I am confused, I thought the Nobel Peace Prize was a get-out-of-jail free card for War Crimes? War crimes would have to be something other than a European attempt to rule through a "judiciary" for that to be true. |
Author: | Rorinthas [ Tue May 14, 2013 3:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
Khross wrote: Every US President since Truman has been accused of war crimes... This was pretty much my thought. He's done a lot of things I disagree with and quite possibly some impeachable things, but War Crimes is probably a bit out there. |
Author: | DFK! [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:31 pm ] |
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Another one! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/1 ... 61319.html tl;dr: Obama's buddy Bill Ayers (from whose house he allegedly launched his campaign) this time. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
I can't say I'm terribly impressed by a claim that someone is a war criminal from an incompetent terrorist. |
Author: | DFK! [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:36 pm ] |
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Mainly to show supporters turning on him. Source credibility is moot in regards to that particular point. |
Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Former supporter calls Obama 'war criminal' |
Quite so. However, since that source had no credibility in the first place, Bill Ayers turning on him is not a strike against him in my book. If anything, it's a recommendation, especially when people claim "war crimes" as a reason. It was stupid at Nurnburg when there were actual Nazis to use it against, and it's even stupider now. It is indeed telling that they're turning on him, but.. if I were him I wouldn't want Ayers in my camp to begin with. |
Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:56 am ] |
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I am fairly certain a policy of bombing then waiting for rescuers and support personnel to show up and then bombing them should and does qualify as a war crime. |
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