The Glade 4.0

Lolaphants

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I have no idea, but would guess it is due to their famous inaccuracy at predicting the extremely close 2000 election.

Seriously, your assertions have absolutely no basis. If Democrats or Republicans were committing such wide-scale fraud to disenfranchise the other side, why is the other side not saying anything? On the other hand, if you assume the Democrats and Republicans are conspiring to fix elections to keep themselves in power, then it wouldn't matter if people voted Dem or Rep, and there would be no reason to slant the votes one way or the other. Rigging an election would require the vast majority of the country to not be voting Dem or Rep, all those votes being changed, and pretty much all the media being in on the conspiracy, and the whole thing not being noticed by anyone.

The fact that anyone believes there are two parties in American politics is proof the ruling elite has a bunch of gullible sheep to manipulate.

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You're probably right. However some people are trying to change that and others are just complaining about it.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

In the late 1700s, the colonies that would become the United States demonstrated a very important lesson about social change that, unfortunately, future generations failed to learn. This is the only ballot you can cast an effective vote with:

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Or this:

Violent revolution has a similar success rate to non-violent revolution, particularly at establishing a stable govornment after the fact. Yes, violent revolution can topple regimes, but what takes its place is not nearly so often as you might hope--better.

Lets just move to Mars instaed.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Colony ship. I'll take first shift.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

There are two political parties in the US, and they are ideologically distinct.

The only problem is they are distinct like fraternal twins are distinct. (and they argue like twins too)

No they aren't. For example Romney's healthcare plan was exactly the same as Obama's.

Way to miss my point. And no, it was not exactly the same.

I've always found it amusing that far-right conservatives essentially support a reverse police state. Instead of the average citizen fearing for their life every day along with random citizens just disappearing when they either violate the regime's arbitrary rules or the regime is reacting to some perceived threat, we should instead just do this to the government. Every government official should live in constant fear for their and their family's lives, and every so often we should just select a few officials that are deemed to be "subversive" or the least loyal based on arbitrary "liberty" standards and just disappear them.

I'm not sure that's what he was getting at.

Xeq its a dichotomous position either a people are afraid of their government or the government is afraid of the people. There is no other choice.

Which would you prefer?

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

People aren't smart enough to live without the benevolent hand of the state.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Once again, you are making comments as if someone said what you've written. No one has advocated harming in any way politicians families, and non one has advocated "disappearing" anyone, especially "selecting" them "once in a while" after they're "deemed" anything. I am glad, though, that the random conversations you're having with people in your head amuse you.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

It's no such thing.

Moreover, when the government is afraid of the people, the people are afraid of each other. Have your revolution; I doubt you'll be pleased with the new government, because it isn't going to be the beacon of restored "liberty" you like to imagine.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

These two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

I really hope the coming years prove you right.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Maybe not families, but we've someone here in-house that regularly calls for the punishment or death of public figures.

That is true, but it in no way impinges on the make-believe I pointed out X is engaging in.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Unfortunately, that hand is like the "strong hand" of that butler guy from Scary Movie.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

No, Corolinth did not express this particular sentiment in this particular post, but since you read the same board I do, you must be aware of the many posters who suggest extreme punishments up to and including execution for even the most minor of infractions for all public officials, so I don't feel unjustified in lumping someone in with them when he posts a picture that implies mass murder is the only viable option.

And if you ever bothered to read the board and not feel the board... you would easily be able to see that Corolinth has not been one of those vocal few about executing public officials.

I do not believe he has really done much in a while but point out the hypocrisy of many of the rest of us and throw an occassional zinger out there... usually while pointing out the hypocrisy of the rest of us.

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